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What is New Under the Sun: Nothing?

Reader comment on item: Not Calling Islamism the Enemy
in response to reader comment: Is that Doublespeak (1952)? or Political Correctness (1934)?

Submitted by M Tovey (United States), Feb 9, 2022 at 13:28

Observer Ludvikus is nothing if not provocative to this observer; the premise of many of his comments have a way of provoking, even poking, at some of the somnolescent attitudes this reader has carefully secreted away in distant memories once thought set in immovable terms of thought. Since much of what this reader believes has been screened through filters of decades of Biblical thought (not necessarily my own), there has been and still is the standard lesson of making human thought comport to Scriptural thought; and where the Spirit leads, the true student of Scripture is bound to consider what is taught. Where Scripture is determined as truth, it cannot be debated except where there is defection and the defects are debatable.
Reader Ludvikus brings up Scripture in the question he poses: is there nothing new under the Sun? It is the quintessential pondering of the intellectual inquisition of 'what is life all about?'
Those of the readership of Dr. Pipes' forum here are engaged in something of just that sort: how does the Middle East gain so much interest from such a global audience in an apparent disproportionate way when the world has so many arenas of discontent; and yet, so many things philosophically arguable end up being debated here: is there really, nothing new?
In reality, this is not just being philosophical about what is challenged here. The lives of real people and their individual and corporate collective issues are at stake and the further reality is that many such lives are at stake as well: who determined then and who determines now which have more value than others and which philosophy rules in any outcome? Or does religion rule?
From this reader's perspective (and make sure, this perspective is this reader's alone), the question is a quote from a person in history regarded by some to have been the wisest of all the ages of sages, the King of ancient Israel; Solomon. It is written that as he ascended the Jewish throne, his petition to the Holy One of Israel was to be imbued with sufficient wisdom to rule over the chosen people of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. By all accounts, his desire was granted.
In the ancient text from which this quoted question was taken, his life was in essence in its final chapters and in its being written for posterity, ends with: revere God and observe all His commandments. This was written well before the arrival of Islam; and Islam and its subsequent variant forms of required submission cannot match the wisdom that King Solomon honored.

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Title Commenter Date Thread
2Communication Theory? Psychology? Or Simply CAIR? [201 words]LudvikusFeb 9, 2022 00:58278780
2Is that Doublespeak (1952)? or Political Correctness (1934)? [118 words]LudvikusFeb 8, 2022 22:41278777
What is New Under the Sun: Nothing? [434 words]M ToveyFeb 9, 2022 13:28278777
1Islam, not Islamic extremism or Islamism [128 words]Charles MartelJun 26, 2015 14:54223956
Fabius' ethnic affiliation [129 words]y Brandstetter MDJan 22, 2015 02:34220590
A deep sigh [31 words]UgriJan 14, 2015 03:15220348
Government Fails Its Primary Responsibility [65 words]DaveSep 1, 2014 10:10217546
2Not Calling Islamism The Enemy [344 words]vigilant101May 24, 2010 15:33173317
Radical Islam threatens the US and western democracies [365 words]Bob JackMay 27, 2010 08:39173317
3The Counter terrorist Force; Who and why Sikhs are? [2200 words]Ravi Ranjan Singh BharatPanthiSep 23, 2010 02:10173317
19/11 was a vaudevillian folk dance compared to what is coming to the West !!! [100 words]Abu McDonaldMay 22, 2010 03:01173214
Sikhs the Counter terrorist Force; Who and why Sikhs are? [2172 words]Ravi Ranjan Singh BharatPanthiSep 23, 2010 02:15173214
Please don't say.....islam....., to describe islam-terrorism, don't you know islam means "peace" .not war,bombings, beheadings,honour killings, threats etc. [131 words]Phil GreendMay 16, 2010 12:31172744
Islam means... [1 words]ayatollahowmanyJan 25, 2015 09:18172744
Media uses Radical Islamist, not terrorist, to describe a front for Al Qaida.- Halleluia!!! [108 words]SvetlanatchkahApr 14, 2009 02:20153841
The great Saladin [116 words]Jonathan WilliamsMar 27, 2009 13:54152858
Valid comment -- but what's it got to do with Saladin? [358 words]GKJun 28, 2010 09:57152858
1The myth of "moderate muslims" and "moderate islam". [489 words]The Final CrusadeDec 14, 2008 21:30145116
Muhamad Ali Is A Terrorist [89 words]MycosMar 13, 2009 00:27145116
RELIGION & CIVILISATION [46 words]agoghèDec 12, 2008 08:25144967
concerned American [208 words]Concerned AmericanDec 10, 2008 10:57144807
No such thing as moderate Islam [57 words]MalDec 9, 2008 15:34144735
The US State Department Is Chickening [69 words]YnnatchkahFeb 8, 2008 13:16119812
Muslims SHOULD be offended...by what their fellow Muslims believe and do [281 words]DrRJPNov 29, 2006 19:0767797
Might want to add yet another name to the list... [33 words]J.S.Nov 28, 2006 18:1967625
Babylon the Great [145 words]Mark HarrisNov 28, 2006 15:3267586
Muslims fight terror [133 words]Abdul Rahman ReijerinkMay 26, 2006 10:5046447
muslims fight terrorist who use islam as a way to kill the innocent. [94 words]ahmad zafireDec 1, 2006 16:5546447
Naming and identifying the enemy [203 words]ChrisrinaMay 6, 2006 18:3744966
Very amusing [201 words]Richard BeecherApr 17, 2006 16:3043414
The EU Fantasyland [259 words]Roy WeinbergApr 16, 2006 18:5143323
Please correct those comments about me. [303 words]Mujahid El MasihJun 27, 2009 00:3443323
Calling the enemy by its real name [287 words]Ed GordonApr 16, 2006 03:5443280
Western Governments Still Avoid Naming the Enemy [473 words]steven LApr 15, 2006 16:0443253
Magog Rising [213 words]Robert LangfelderApr 14, 2006 22:1143209
money, demographics, political correctness and globalism [184 words]Arnold FishmanApr 14, 2006 22:0543207
Fear of Islam and Moslim [217 words]F. ShakkiApr 14, 2006 21:5943205
Political correctness [45 words]albert BostwickApr 14, 2006 21:0743204
The Pink Elephant in the Room [71 words]Cap'n CanadaApr 14, 2006 21:0643203
Naming the Enemy [394 words]Thomas Earl CannadyApr 14, 2006 19:3043202
1about islam [32 words]grainne fullbrookApr 14, 2006 16:0843197
Islamism = Terrorism [198 words]ToTelltheTruthApr 14, 2006 14:4443193
Naming the type of conflict we're in. Dr Pipes on 14 4 2006 [238 words]Ian MApr 14, 2006 12:1843181
Not Until [18 words]Dr. Lee D. CaryApr 14, 2006 11:0743176
Rhetorics are a double edged sword [481 words]Farid H.Apr 13, 2006 20:1943153
no kidding [84 words]JihadiApr 13, 2006 13:3943120
Don't worry Jesus will come soon to tell who is terrorist, rascist, fascist, racit and who is not! [412 words]Iraqi BoyApr 14, 2006 03:3543120
Frustrated People [88 words]Iraqi BoyApr 16, 2006 13:2643120
islam is the enemy [139 words]G.BisvasApr 13, 2006 13:3543119
Never ended process! [187 words]Muhammad_Jesus_Moses_AdamApr 14, 2006 03:5743119
Everything is linked with Economic interest [134 words]Iraqi BoyApr 13, 2006 10:2143109

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