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Submitted by Robert (United States), Jan 30, 2020 at 13:35

I think Dr. Daniel Pipes didn't fully appreciate the significance of your concept - OUTSIDE IN. I think that may be a consequence of you focusing on only 2 "outsides" Iran and Syria. I think the Outside is everything but the "stateless" Palestinians. The word, especially the Moslem world has changed drastically since the Arab Spring and the ISIS Caliphate/State of Iraq-Syria. Among other things, Pan-Arabism and Pan-Islamism has failed in North Africa and Eastern Asia (from Afghanistan). Israelis Irredentism is moving forward. Central and South America are moving closer to Israel. So are India, China, and even Russia. Eastern Europe more so than Central and Western Europe of the EU. The British are undergoing Brexit with a "Jewish" PM and favoring Israel more than the EU. And the well-off Saudis, where women can finally drive a car without a man relative inside. It's just been declared by Israel that they may visit Saudi Arabia legally under Israel's laws.

These are just some of the changes which affect Israel's Victory over the Palestinians in Mandatory Palestine since. Israel has been in a CIVIL WAR since at least 1948. Civil Wars, under established Law of Nations (International Law) require Non-Intervention by Foreign States. China particularly subscribes to this principle. So does Russia. Only the Soverign government of a State can invite a military for assistance. That's how Putin justified sending his Air-force to help Assad's regime in Syria. The Disputed Territories (Gaza and the West Bank) have been "liberated" from Egypt and Jordan in 1967. They were previously a part of Mandatory Palestine established by the League of Nations and affirmed by its successor the United Natioins. Foreign Arab countries sent their armies in support of the Palestine rebels who simply failed to establish a Palestinian state as Israel dis and get UN recognition in 1948. So the conflict of Israel against the Arab Palestinians in the Liberated Territories (freed from the conquests of Egypt and Jordan in 1967) are Rebels in a Civil War which has never ended. In contrast, in Syrian Russia was invited by the government of Syria to assist in the fight against the Revolution against the Syrian political establishment. Some of the International Law "legislated" by the UN is the product only of its Security Council. Israel, as a Soverign State, is free to reject it. There are many countries which choose not to accept the rulings of the UN. The idea of a further Palestinian state (besides Jordan) originates with the UN General Assembly (about 1949?) - not the Security Council, and so has no force of (international) law. Furthermore, even subsequent agreements between Israel and the Palestinians explicitly require further negations between the 2 parties. And so there is no right to "foreign intervention," not even by the UN. What seems to be missing is the clear recognition and understanding that the dispute is of the nature of a Civil War. As such only the warring parties can decide on the outcome. As far as I know, no one has argued that Israel continues to be in a Civil War with the Palestinians within Mandatory Palestine, and that the Palestinian continue to dream of assistance in their cause through Foreign Intervention. Cyprus, Kashmir, Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Spain, Ireland, Ukraine, South-Africa are just some places where Civil Wars were or still are unresolved, and an understand there can helped understand the Laws of Nations (International Laws) and how the emphasis is on the subject of "Internal Affairs" of a Soverign State to resolve; and in this case there is Israel and the non-state of Palestine and its people the Palestinians. The Outside-In approach therefore involves a struggle for a Palestine State to be recognized by other foreign sovereign states. But even such outside recognition does not alter the fact that Borders are secure by military and police force, and the strongest in that realm and area is Israel.

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