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Jesus is Jesus; God is God

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Submitted by Michael S (United States), May 11, 2018 at 18:44

Tovey,

I want to make this short and sweet, and not to offend you too much at the same time.

1. You are parroting a NON-BIBLICAL doctrine that has been used by clerics to excommunicate one another for centuries, It has sowed discord, hatred and division everywhere it has been preached, from its inception. That, in itself, ought to give you a strong indication of where it came from.

2. Every scripture you have cited, or could ever site (There are precious few of them) which could be twisted to say that Jesus, a human being, is indeed God, the eternal Spirit, can be read in a more reasonable way to reflect the obvious -- realities, such as, a. God cannot die; Jesus did. b. The Father cannot be His own son; c. God is not beside Himself, and Jesus is in heaven, standing at his right hand; d. It's ridiculous, to think that Jesus prayed to himself, especially saying things like,

"Not my will, but Thine be done".

3. God is referred throughout the NT as the Creator, nearly always in the same verses that Jesus is depicted as a DIFFERENT person. Jesus, on the other hand, is NEVER explicitly and unambiguously described as God.

In response to the "Word" passage, EVERYTHING was created by the Logos, the spoken word of God. "The word became flesh" in Adam, just as much as it did in Jesus. John is not equating Jesus with God's word here; he is pointing out the fact that Jesus' existence and ministry is part and parcel of God's pre-ordained purpose.

Daniel Pipes is an agnostic, like many Jews; but as a Jew, he has a far better understanding of the nature of God than you do, along with countless other Christian theologians who imagine that they possess the "hidden wisdom" about our Creator.

Jesus was a human being, like you and me. That's how he was able to die; and when he was dead, he did not raise himself back to life; God did. Having been so raised, he gave us a commandment that only one who is 100% human could reasonably give: He said,

"Follow me".

God bless and keep you, Tovey; and may He please straighten out your confused mind on these matters.

Shalom shalom :-)

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