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The Muslims will not overthrow Western Civilization

Reader comment on item: "The rebellion against Islam and Islamism is growing in Europe"
in response to reader comment: Europe and the Roman Empire 476 AD and the barbarian invasions v Arab/Muslim invasions

Submitted by Michael S (United States), Jun 19, 2016 at 23:40

Hi, Dhimmino. You said,

"Another scenario? If we are to believe Henri Pirenne then it was the Arab/Muslim invasions in the 7th century and not the above barbarian invasions that ended the Roman civilization and dragged Europe into the dark ages! Same outcome

"Moral of the story? Not just Europeans but here in the US we should wake up and realize that the Western civilization could be heading to another dark age"

I reckon the "end of the Roman Empire" at 750 AD (CE), somewhat after the Arab invasions. By that time, the official language of the Empire had changed from Latin to Greek, and the city of Rome had been cut off from the (Constantinople-based) Empire. The Pope, who had before then been subject to the Roman Emperor, was helped by the Franks against the Lombards who were threatening to overrun the city; and a prototype of the "Holy Roman Empire" (HRE) was born, with an Italian spiritual head and a Franco-German earthly head. The European Union is a reincarnation of the HRE, the first HRE having ended in 1804. Constantinople, meanwhile, finally succumbed to the Turkish Ottoman invasion in 1453.

Roman Civilization continues in what Daniel Pipes refers to as "The West". One example is Civil Law, the form of law practiced in continental Europe and most of the world (English-speaking countries, including India and the US, use forms of British Common Law). Civil Law has its roots in the Justinian Code established by the (Eastern) Roman Emperor in 529-534 AD/CE. That was after the first barbarian (Visigothic) sack of Rome in 399 CE and before the Lombard victory in 750. Another continuation of Roman civilization is the Latin alphabet used by West Europeans, Americans, Australians, southern Africans, Turks, Romanians, Vietnamese and Pacific Islanders -- and, of course, the Internet. Yet another continuation is the Roman Catholic church, and its offshoots in various Protestant churches. If that weren't enough, many words in English and other languages, particularly biological and medical terms, are unadultered Latin; and much of the world's famous architecture, including the US Capitol and the Lincoln Memorial, are in Roman style.

Concerning our present age, I don't foresee Muslim "barbarians" overthrowing Western Civilization. I expect the Messianic Age to happen instead, in perhaps a decade or two.

Shalom shalom :-)

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