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Submitted by Lactantius Jr (United Kingdom), Apr 16, 2011 at 17:56

To dhimmi no more

Thank you for commenting as you have done about a goat (or was it a sheep?) eating the Qur'anic "revelations" on stoning (Al-Rajam) and suckling (Rajeata), those "revelations" obviously not appearing in present-day Qur'ans. I was of course aware of the incident of "the hungry goat," (or sheep), entering Aisha's house, and eating the material which contained the verses on stoning and suckling, but my focus was on the original "burn the Qur'an day," ordered by Caliph Uthman, and I now think it well worthwhile to comment on the disparity between burning/desecrating Qur'ans and Bibles, both here in the UK and in the US, demonstrating how dhimmification proceeds apace on both sides of the Atlantic.

During the last 7 months or so here in UK, to my knowledge, there have been 4 occasions where burning the Qur'an has been followed by police arrests, with Gateshead police arresting 6 men in September 2010 "on suspicion of inciting racial hatred" (sic) for burning two Qur'an's on the anniversary of 9/11, West Midlands police arresting a 15 year-old schoolgirl in November 2010 "on suspicion of inciting religious hatred." (sic), South Wales police arresting two BNP (British National Party) candidates, Sion Owens, and Ms Joanne Shannon in April 2011, but I submit their party affiliation is immaterial to their "offence"of burning a Qur'an, because I doubt whether they would have been arrested for burning a Bible, a Bhagavad Vita, a Talmud, The Analects of Confucius, or The Tao Te Ching etc. but be that as it may, Mr Owens was arrested and charged under Section 29 of the Public Order Act, and spent the weekend in custody before appearing at Swansea Magistrates Court, where due to a technicality he was released, but warned that police are continuing to investigate the alleged incident and to expect further action, whilst Ms Shannon was released on bail, "pending further enquiries," and the occasion in January 2011 when Carlisle police arrested former British soldier Andrew Ryan, charging him with "religiously aggravated harassment and theft (of the Qur'an from Carlisle Library,)" after setting fire to a copy of the Qur'an in Carlisle city centre. "Religiously aggravated harassment" carrying a maximum sentence of 2 years imprisonment.

The anodyne comments of police and UK government officials being very telling, with Superintendent Phil Davies of South Wales police, who led the investigation into the two BNP election candidates, saying: "We always adopt an extremely robust approach to allegations of this sort, and find this sort of intolerance unacceptable in our society," http://tinyurl.com/3wt6dlq with a statement from the Home Office saying, "The government absolutely condemns the burning of the Qur'an. It is fundamentally offensive to the values of our pluralist and tolerant society." http://tinyurl.com/3mg9rdo

Whilst I do not know the outcome of the above charges made against the individuals concerned, I do know that highly publicised desecration of the Bible has twice occurred in Scotland within the last 12 months or so, not only without arrests, court appearances or criminal charges being brought, but in both cases, the desecration was enabled and encouraged by Glasgow City Council, a taxpayer-funded local authority, where visitors were invited to deface the Bible "in the name of art," some visitors responding predictably with abuse and obscenity, with the desecrated Bible being displayed at the Gallery of Modern Art in Glasgow. http://tinyurl.com/3jwwwcg

Glasgow city council also exhibiting at an "art auction" (sic), at McClellan Galleries another council run "art" gallery, a 200 year old Bible which had been coated in batter and deep-fried in a fish and chip restaurant, http://tinyurl.com/2f4cdyf

Comparing and contrasting the reaction here in UK to those burning the Qur'an and to those desecrating the Bible is extremely telling isn't it?

In the US the "official" reaction to Pastor Terry Jones' burning of a Qur'an has been well documented by David Wood of "Answering Muslims," his comment being titled, "Shariamerica: Islam, Obama, and the Establishment Clause" which is posted at, http://tinyurl.com/63m5upn and which contains very telling comments by President Barack Hussein Obama, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, General David Howell Petraeus, the current Commander of the International Security Assistance Force, and Commander US Forces Afghanistan, and Senator Lindsey Olin Graham (Rep.South Carolina). Comments by all of the above demonstrate the "official" reaction to burning the Qur'an, whilst being silent about the burning by the US army in Afghanistan of Pashto and Dari language Bibles as "trash."

Very clearly, we're in a mess on both sides of the Atlantic in our craven responses aren't we? and David Wood does us a great service in the way he has set about challenging the "official" US response to Qur'an burning, whilst remaining silent about the US army in Afghanistan burning Bibles as "trash."

With kind regards and best wishes

Lactantius Jr.

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