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islamists are stuck in 7th century Arabia

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Dec 7, 2008 at 09:55

For the readers you will notice that this islamist, Hassan Abu Al-Ashbal is indeed a victim of poor Muslim education. Notice that he alludes to Muhammad's so called letter to Heraclius (the Emperor of the Byzantine Empire) around 627CE where we are told that Muhammad asked him to convert to islam (it just makes you wonder who really wrote that letter and what kind of Arabic was that and were the Greeks able to read such Arabic and we will never know) and now here is more islamic confusion:

1. The Qur'an tells us that the Greeks were called al-ruum. Now notice that we have two perfect Arabic words for the greeks and they are: al-yunaniyuun or al-ighreeq. Now enter Syriac and yes the word al-ruum is a Syriac loan word from rommaye (ye for plural) and it just makes you wonder why would the author of a book in Arabic selects a word in Syriac when we have perfect Arabic words that mean the Greeks. I guess we will never know. But this is where the Islamic confusion starts.

2. Now back to the Qur'an: so the Qur'an tells us that al-ruum (read this as the Greeks of the Byzantine Empire) will lose the war (but it does not tell us which war or who will be the winner) This did not stop the brazen Ulama from telling us that such war was the Greek/Persian war of 616CE where the Greeks were defeated by the Persians (notice that you will not find the name of the Persians or al-majuus or al-3ajam in such verses in the Qur'an)

3. Then the Qur'an tells us that al-ruum will defeat who ever defeated them and again the brazen ulama sitting in distant mesopotamia and Iran in the 3rd century of islam tell us that the Greeks indeed defeated the Persians in 628-629CE but you will never find this in the Qur'an. And the ulama also tell us that the al-ruum won because they were the believers and the Persians were not.

4. But the Qur'an is silent about the rest of the story and that is: The Greeks were defeated by the invading Arabs (moagaritoi in Greek, mhgraye in Syiac and muhajiruun in Arabic and notice that those invading tayayye or Arabs in Syriac did not call themsleves neither Arabs nor Muslims)

5. Now back to those infamous letters: we are also told that Muhammad sent a letter to al-muqawqas who is really Cyrus the Greek governor of Egypt around 627CE asking him to covert to islam a religion that did not even exist. But again and here is the problem: Cyrus was not to return to Egypt from Constantinople (where he fled following the Persian invasion of Egypt in 616CE and the Persians left Egypt after being defeated in 628CE) until 632CE or the year when Muhammad died which means that Cyrus could not have recieved such letter from Muhammad in 627CE as claimed by Muslims. But again and I realize that this is argument form silence: The Coptic and Greek sources (and yes we have extant papyri from Egypt from the year 22AH or 22 years after the death of muhammad) are silent about any such letter and no one in Egypt seemed to be able to recognize those invading Arabs in 642CE and tell us that "yes those are the arabs whose leader Muhammad sent a letter to Cyrus asking him to convert to islam and Cyrus (and this is the second half of the story) and that Cyrus sent to mahammad a certain Maria al-Qibtiyya as a slave and a gift".

I do believe that the silence of the sources external to islamic sources is significant so there is no reason for us to believe such little tale about letters sent by Muhammad and if so there is no reason for us to believe that such a letter was sent by Muhammad to Heraclius

6. Now here is where the islamic confusion peaks: With the Greeks being called al-ruum and Muslims have no clue about Constantinople but some how the other ruum or Romans of Italy must fit in here some how. So we hear about the tradition where Muhammad says that Rommeya (Roma in today's Arabic or Rome) will be taken over by Muslims but first the leader of Rome will be sent a letter or told on the above TV channel al-nas by a certain Islamist that he is invited to become muslim for his won safety (islam taslam) or else

Et viola boys and girls: islamists are stuck in 7th century Arabia and Arabian ignorance.

Now if you notice the photo of Hassan you will notice that he has a dark spot on his forehead and in Egyptian Arabic it is called a zebeba or raison and it is a bruise from islamic prostration when praying. His garb? This is what islamists in the 21st century imagine that Muhammad looked like beard and no moustache and all

This is really pathetic

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