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Submitted by Robert (United States), Jan 10, 2020 at 13:21

History does not enable us to forecast predictable the outcome of our actions. Jews and Arabs and Muslims having lived through the Industrial Revolution were confronted with Nationalism and Irredentism. The Jews produced Israel, a modern functioning representative republic. The Germans and Italians produced Germany and Italy earlier in the 19th century - but these went through Fascist and Nazi phases before reaching the stability of democracies. India, when the British withdrew from their colonialist holding resulted in a civil war that a Hindu Remnant and a Muslim Pakistan. And as I write it is claimed that India is imitating Israel in its adoption of a Citizenship law which excludes foreign residents of Muslim extraction. When Eisenhower decided in 1952 or 1953, during the Cold War to take down the alleged "Communist" PM Mohammad Mosaddegh with the John Foster Dulles as Secretary of State and his brother heading the CIA, he had no idea that this would influence the 1979 Iranian Revolution the the rise of a Shia Persian "Empire" controlled by proxy "Brown Shirt" efficient equivalents. How come we couldn't do that during the Vietnam War? Or more recently, the whole anti-ISIS Western-led coalition seems incredibly incompetent in comparison to the work of t5he late Iranian Revolutionary Guards General Suleiman? Russia had its Chechen "problem" and China has its re-education camps for the Uighur Muslims. Putin in Syria supports the quasi-Shia ablioshment under Dictator Assad. Saudi Arabia is modernizing with women driving cars and attending sports events with men present. Sisi in Egypt is Modernizing his country while clamping down on the outlawed Muslim Brethren. The incredibly Rich Gulf States appear to see the difference between the Israelis and Palestinians and appear to favor the former.

I can go on. Discuss the Erdogan - Islamist Turkey, and the Kurds, and Greater Kurdistan, for example.

It seems to me that Israel will be "accepted" (Zionism tolerated) only when Islamism and Pan-Arabism subsides when Muslim and Arab Majority countries (or states) produce Modern stable functioning secular representative governments.

An important relatively disconnected event appears the growing failure of the BDS movement in American Academia and Europe. Also, the adoption of Anti-Semitism definition to include anti-Zionism. Also, the 1964 Civil Rights Act, thanks to President Trump's recent executive order, recognized Jews as a Nation (Religious discrimination isn't covered by the Act).

It seems as if the Palestinians need to be maligned by their own "other" Arabs and Muslims for Israel to attain Peace. We saw an inkling of that in October of last year, for example, when some Iranians took to the streets chanting "Death to the Palestinians."

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