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In further praise of nationalism

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Submitted by Jarrow Rogovin (United States), Aug 4, 2019 at 23:30

Quite a number of years ago, I pronounced the EU a sham, covering for the designs of Germany and France, the locomotives driving this "bullet" train. Germany wanted the EU in order to have an untainted, reborn identity, and to regain legitimacy: Homo novo europa. For France, it was ill-disguised ambition: France wants to be powerful, particularly vis-à-vis the U.S. Hence, the political version of genetic engineering, the EU.

Inexorably, Germany became dominant -- again – even while maintaining the mask of Homo ne to legitimate becoming the hegemony -- again. And Homo ne is diminishing under the weight of cradle-to-grave social security and mega bureaucracy. Many an "intellectual" German or Frenchman now says, "I'm a European," whereas the ever evanescent Italian bubbles, "I'm an Italian." And yes, he kind of does hate the French.

The Central Europeans being too experienced as cogs in a bigger machine, simply want to be a Pole, a Czech, a Hungarian -- finally.

But the manufacturing, financial, media, and "intellectual" monoliths are parts of a relentless engine grinding its way toward a dystopian reorder and all-engorging unification. It is a robot hammer and a ptetobyte chip. The sickle was outmoded by technology

If I understand Hazony's critique of the foreign policies of the last four presidents, they stand accused of being the military arm of a pseudo global consensus on how the world should be run and major conflicts resolved: A paradoxical combination of multilateral decision making executed by the gladiatorial champion, the U.S. military, but marching to the tune of "We Are the World."

In contrast, I remain a neocon dedicated to the principle that it is the first order of civilization to civilize, if only in its own self-defense. I am an unapologetic advocate of unilateralism and preemption in times of exigency. My no-regrets example is my preference for a failed Iraqi state dominated by Iran over rogue regime dictator Saddam. It should be obvious to all but the most clueless pece fanatic or Hate America Firster that a failed state is preferable, i.e., less of a threat, than a rogue dictator. The current Iraq may be a (mostly self-made) tragedy, but it has been rendered – and rendered itself—harmless to the region.

I worry less about Iran ruling Iraq than I do who rules Iran. "Consensus" regarding how to deal with Iran should be more a matter of pragmatism rather than not-so-convenient multilateralism or last ditch desperate necessity. If we wish to protect various nationalisms, facilitating a final, salutary disposition of the Iranian regime would be an act of nationalism and not imperialism. At worst, it could be charged with benign -- and hopefully temporary -- colonialism.

From a telescoped historical view, our enlightened civics does owe a debt to Hazony's "Protestant Construction." I would, however, credit the ever-fertile pagan mind and trace "The Reformulation" to a reemergence of the Greek polis and the conventions that created the Roman Republic. Judaism had already bequeathed its ethical monotheism to the process that became G-d-given rights. It was otherwise too insular, non-secular and completely apart from the existing systems being revolutionized to be source material for theorists from Mills and Burke to the Founder Fathers. Catholicism was too otherworldly at the same time that, ironically, its hypocritical church-state symbiosis was too corrupt to be the foundation for modern institutions. The pagan mind wanted to observe the natural world and human relations down to their atomization. There is an inherent meritocracy in this process. The Protestant Reformation was a political, cultural and social anthropological evolution that began in the Mediterranean basin over two thousand years earlier.

I quite agree with Messrs. Hazony and Pipes: Discerning between affirmative civilizing and imperialism can be difficult. But the injunction to teach our children diligently is not merely a family matter and both the process and outcome hopefully justifies the former. Second, yes, the struggle is eternal because the impulse to collectivism and its corollary, imposition and domination, is eternal. The social impulse run amok It is the source of the quintessential, timeless, societal struggle between good and evil.


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Title Commenter Date Thread
Call Xi Jiping imperialist is patently wrong [214 words]Alex BaldorAug 14, 2019 23:17252807
NSDAP totally distorted two concepts [52 words]AntonyAug 13, 2019 08:27252743
Nazi monstrosity was more evil than imperialism [32 words]PrashantAug 5, 2019 22:01252391
Imperialism has its moments [301 words]DaveAug 5, 2019 19:52252388
In that case, one should recognize Feminism as another form of Western imperialism [68 words]Anon.Aug 5, 2019 16:31252380
Just 2 Kinds of Nations [33 words]David RyanAug 5, 2019 01:48252352
1Chauvinism, Internationalism, and the Industrial Revolution [351 words]RobertSep 21, 2019 15:22252352
In further praise of nationalism [681 words]Jarrow RogovinAug 4, 2019 23:30252348
Nationalism, Fourth Divine Institution [57 words]herbert r richmondAug 4, 2019 19:43252337

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