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I would say these political movements are not primarily about preserving civilization per se

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Submitted by Anon. (Israel), Jan 28, 2019 at 14:17

They are about preserving their countries' character and their culture and not allowing these ethnic groups, living in their historical lands to become minorities in their own historical homes; not wishing to become easily recognizable racial, religious and cultural minorities. Of course they also care about the tenets of what is known as Western civilization.

I would imagine that Kurds (and "Kurds" always refers to ethnic Kurds) who wish for independence wish for Kurdish independence, i.e they wish for ethnic Kurds to be independent and to be masters of their own destiny in the historical borders of Kurdistan. They wish for their ethnic group to rule the land and itself in this ethnic group's historical home. I would imagine ethnic Chechens feel similarly about about being a clear majority in Chechnia. I would suppose Arabs in Saudi Arabia are not keen on establishing an immigration policy destined to turn them into an ethnic (and religious, cultural) minority in their land or in large swaths of it.

It is obvious that Europe's parties share a similar wish when it comes to Europe's various countries.


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Title Commenter Date Thread
Civilizationist parties make me uneasy, but... [134 words]JanMar 14, 2019 15:27248390
"Nationalism" is a better Term than "civilizationist" [1135 words]RobertFeb 22, 2019 14:36247898
Hard to understand [16 words]AlbertE.Feb 19, 2019 20:50247845
Bigotry is hardly a value of western civilization. [147 words]BorisGFeb 9, 2019 07:38247619
European Jews are in danger if they say the thruth about Israƫl and Islamism [76 words]amos zotJan 29, 2019 04:14247407
I would say these political movements are not primarily about preserving civilization per se [183 words]Anon.Jan 28, 2019 14:17247396
1Thanks for the term civilizationist [107 words]Lorenz GudeJan 28, 2019 03:43247388
holocaust no. 2 [113 words]John BlackmanJan 27, 2019 19:16247382
The German foreign minister laid a wreath on Arafat's tomb a couple of years ago. [4 words]Anon.Jan 27, 2019 16:26247381
German foreign minister's amnesia and confusion after 1972 [38 words]mythJan 31, 2019 12:21247381
He should have let his dog pay his respects. [67 words]AnonFeb 2, 2019 19:09247381
1Europe's Jews vs. Israel [78 words]WalterJan 27, 2019 15:51247379
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What if both sides are right? [88 words]Jeffrey SheffJan 27, 2019 14:18247377
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Who Decides for the Jewish People - European Jewish populations or the Israeli citizen? [291 words]MToveyJan 28, 2019 17:26247375
2Globalists vs.Nationalists: The New World War? (Is Globalism the New Communism???) [272 words]G MarcusJan 27, 2019 13:00247374

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