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"Far-right Sweden Democrats hope to topple century of socialism"

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Submitted by Robert (United States), Aug 17, 2018 at 18:04

Dear Daniel Pipes,

Here is another article which supports your analyses
of Europe's emerging so-called "Civilizational" parties.

Far-right Sweden Democrats hope to topple century of socialism
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/far-right-sweden-democrats-hope-topple-century-socialism-n901131

I agree with most of your analyses.
There are some differences (on Tactics perhaps, as opposed to Strategy).

I think you should re-instate the concept of NATIONALISM.
Although it was Militarist, and Irredentist,
Western Europe now is satisfied mostly
with the Borders of its member States.
Nationalism, as you know gives us the Identity of the European peoples
within their countries borders.

A good (old) book, rather neglected, on this matter is
"Essays on Nationalism" by Prof. Carlton J. H. Hayes
(of Columbia University), Copyright 1926,
the copy I own was published in 1937 in New York
by THE MACMILLAN COMPANY.

I also do not find much depth in the Liberal/Conservative distinction as you seem to do.
There were in Europe 6 Great Philosophers,
3 British Empiricists, and 3 Continental Rationalists.
This is the classical view we learn in American Liberal Colleges
when we pursue an Undergraduate degree.
After thee come three others - all Germans:
(1) Kant, (2) Hegel, and (3) Marx.

Although I'm an Anglophone, and Anglophile, like you,
I do not see that much use or depth in going back to the great Sir John Fortescue.
The Accidents of History play a role - such as distortion by infamy
- the 2 World Wars obscured well the vast intellectual contributions of Germany,
which was once the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation,
next, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, finally, the German Empire.
These were all proper forms of their respective historical Epochs,
if we recall that British Victory was Empress of India,
France had its Emperor Napoleon, sometime thereafter returned to Emperor Napoleon III,
Russia had its Tsars , and Germany the Kaiser.

This is an essential part of the history of the "Civilization" of Europe in Modern times.
And it brings me down to the related notions of Colonialism and Imperialism.

Today, Europe is being "Colonized" by Muslims and Islam.
We should, therefore, re-institute Neo-Colonialism of a new type:
Muslim North Africa and Muslim West Asia
have failed in creating a livable Modern States/Countries;
Arab Spring has produced Failed States instead.

At the same time Obama re-introduced "successfully"
(Economic Sanctions) Imperialism against Iran
(resulting in a "bad deal");
Trump is demonstrating that "Economically Imperial" USA
can do it all alone.

I think you still under-estimate President Trump and his vision of Israel
as a crucial player in this struggle;
a close observation of his familiar and business Jewish relations
indicates I think that he sees Israel clearly as a Strategic and Tactical ally.

Also, Iran's creation of an anti-Sunni CRESCENT
that runs through Baghdad (Iraq) and Damascus (Syria)
appears as though Providence itself
created a Kissinger (sorry, I know you don't exactly like him) environment
for the Saudis, Gulf States, and Egyptians
to join forces with Israel - an almost ideal environment
for what you call an Israeli Victory over the Palestinians.

Under Trumps Jewish administrators of a Peace Deal,
there is now discussion of an Economic Deal to lift Palestinians out of poverty
in both Gaza and the West Bank - further weakening the terror in Gaza,
and the incompetence of Abbas and his 1982 Thesis and the Zionists
were the Allies of the Nazis and that only 850,000 Jews
- not 6,000,000 - were killed in the Holocaust
(he, subsequently, tried to "explain" that away.

Now we come to the current event that Israel as a Jewish State
- your readers may need reminding that in the Balfour Declaration for a Jewish Home in Palestine,
the "Political" Rights of the Arabs were explicitly, and deliberately, omitted.

Furthermore, it is time, I think, for you to revive the notion
that Jordan (once Transjordan) is a Palestinian State.
So any arrangements in the West Bank
should take that into an account most favorable to Israel.
Among those, there is no reason why, any future Palestinian future "territory,"
of whatever Sovereignty, should not have a 20% Jewish demography or population;
and President Trump said that Jewish "Settlements" do not preclude Peace.

A neglected issue is the Split in the Diaspora Jewish community in the USA.
But Jews here were not initially Zionists, followers of Brandeis;
Jacob Schiff, and his financed American Jewish Committee
did not wish to compromise their American Citizenship;
and there were Jewish Bolsheviks, Socialist, and Communists,
that supported the October 1917 Bolshevik Coup
against the Menshevik Parliamentarians.

Anti-Semitism is on the rise in Europe - but we Jews do support Multiculturalism;
as minorities, Jews, therefore, will apparently always experience victimhood,
making Israel a necessity.

It is necessary to point out that 2 years after the Constitution was adopted,
in 1791 the Bill of Rights became a part thereof.
Furthermore, the Civil War, which resulted, inter alia,
President Abraham Lincoln's "Emancipation Proclamation"in 1863,
and the subsequent 14th Amendment, which resulted in a revolutionary stronger union.
But though Slaves were Freed, Racism created to keep the "N-word" people,
and their Jewish and Catholic allies in their place - until the 1960's Civil Right "Evolution/Revolution."

I don't think the Conservative vs. Liberal is a useful distinction;
Republicans and Democrats, in our 2-party system, cover this ground, more or less.

Whatever Political and Philosophical distinctions these terms make,
they only are relevant to Anglophones
- not the Continental Europeans and their Civilizational cravings.

Even the French Revolution is a Problem for European unity.
In 1989 the major European countries participated in making a film
on the 200 anniversary of the French Revolution - but it ended with the beheading of Robespierre.
Apparently, the great Napoleon Bonaparte,
who famously once said "I am the Revolution,"
was too controversial to be included.

Marx is not solely responsible for Lenin's and Stalin's Soviet Union,
or Mao's Long March and Cultural Revolution.
But he gave us the notion of the "interests of the Ruling Class."
By this I mean your attack on so-called Rationality
(and reversion to Conservatism).
Similarly, Sigmund Freud gave us the Proto-Science of Psychology
(there was no such science before him).
And the notion of Unconscious, and the Irrational, is his discoveries or contribution.

So part of the work of European Civilizational parties
is to create their Myth of their glorious pasts,
upon which they shall be able to resist, or become immunized,
against Islamization.

But it is Aristotle who made the distinction between Matter and Form;
with that distinction in mind,I wish to point out the obvious
that Living Human Beings are Born and immediately indoctrinated
with their Parent's Language and Religion, an Irrational process, so to speak.
Accordingly, a (Modern [of European"Modernity"] ) "Civilized" European population,
confronted by a huge population of non-Europeans will not make for a very tasty Soup;
Salt and Pepper are nice spices - but not to much, if you don't wish to spoil the dish.
This is a theoretical fact implicit in Aristotelianism.

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1"Nationalism Is Bringing Together Israel and Eastern Europe" [395 words]RobertAug 29, 2018 09:26244469
1"Far-right Sweden Democrats hope to topple century of socialism" [1158 words]RobertAug 17, 2018 18:04244281
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