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Only Erdogan can stop Erdogan

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Submitted by Michael S (United States), Sep 20, 2017 at 03:58

Bravo, Daniel!

I believe Erdogan considers any room in which he is not personally present, to consist of "empty chairs and walls".

Through this exercise, we can see why NATO is as ineffective as it is, and the US Administration along with them. How can a group that is so at war with itself, and with its own principles, carry out a coherent, effective policy?

No matter how much Trump and the rest of NATO bend over backwards to please Erdogan, he is bound to continue on his course: and that course is aligned with Iran, Hizbullah, Assad and Russia, not with the US. President Trump has now joined with them, in trying to prevent an independence referendum in Iraqi Kurdistan.

Up until this week, I had thought Kurdistan's Barzani would duck out at the last minute, canceling the referendum in exchange for some handsome reward from Trump. But now, I think the referendum has taken on a life of his own: the PEOPLE of Kurdistan demand it, and Barzani must comply. Here is the latest from him:

"Irbil- Kurdistan Region President Masoud Barzani asserted on Tuesday that the region has decided to proceed with the referendum next Monday and asked for an alternative guaranteeing independence to be presented in three days."

-- https://english.aawsat.com/said/news-middle-east/barzani-demands-finding-substitute-referendum-3-days

Trump cannot cave in to these demands, because he had become an errand boy of Erdogan. It looks as though the Turkish Army, which is already massing on the Iraqi Kurdistan border, will soon be physically intervening; and Trump will not be able to stop them, any more than he is able to stop Assad's forces, backed by the Russians, from defying him in Syria.

I have been wrong many times about the timing of this; but we will see how it turns out, certainly in the next few weeks. Trump has become very, very weak; and the's the strongest actor in NATO outside of Erdogan. The more he blusters about Syria, Hizbullah, the South China Sea and North Korea, the more he shows himself to be weak; and leaders on ALL those fronts have begun calling his bluff.

NATO cannot stop Erdogan. Russia CAN stop him, but won't; because he is fighting for their interests. Only Erdogan can stop Erdogan; and given enough rope to hang himself, he will.


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The Turks actually disapprove of everyone, except themselves [100 words]Michael SOct 12, 2017 03:56241054
Turkey is moving into Idlib, de facto allied with the jihadists it is purportedly fighting [6 words]Michael SOct 11, 2017 06:06241051
Rival Powers Use Islamists Against Each Other [189 words]DaveOct 9, 2017 17:00241039
Bravo, Mr. Pipes [3 words]Vadim AnshelevichOct 9, 2017 12:39241037
Trump is losing the Middle East FASTER than Obama did [341 words]Michael SOct 9, 2017 03:58241034
What's left to lose? [262 words]JeffOct 14, 2017 15:55241034
"The Illustrious" vs. "the Madman" [423 words]Michael SOct 20, 2017 01:45241034
US Troops = "Military Tourists" [428 words]Michael SOct 20, 2017 05:09241034
A thank you to Daniel Pipes [116 words]
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"Testosterone" to stand up to Erdogan? [344 words]Michael SOct 14, 2017 05:40241022
respond to Michael [84 words]SadeqOct 28, 2017 01:44241022
I hate Islam, but love Muslims [420 words]Michael SNov 3, 2017 18:07241022
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Turkey is now threatening military action against its peaceful neighbors [178 words]Michael SSep 27, 2017 06:21240921
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my best guess of what will happen [285 words]Michael SOct 10, 2017 05:49240921
Dear Michael [207 words]Debanjan BanerjeeOct 19, 2017 23:46240921
Israel and Kurdistan will likely soon be neighbors [373 words]Michael SOct 28, 2017 01:40240921
Western ethical values [42 words]AnnaSep 24, 2017 10:51240908
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Bravo to standing up to Erdoğan [82 words]Dr. Jack LawsonSep 21, 2017 13:23240882
The Erdogan Dummy [129 words]DaveSep 20, 2017 15:45240878
I Taught NATO to Stand Up to a Dictator [151 words]Judith DaviesSep 20, 2017 13:38240875
Thanks for the explanation [73 words]PeterSep 20, 2017 11:57240874
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erdogan and gulen are like brown and yellow ... [338 words]wealth swiftOct 24, 2017 22:30240870
Only Erdogan can stop Erdogan [384 words]Michael SSep 20, 2017 03:58240869
Where is the speech? [41 words]
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Good for you Daniel [58 words]avi elnekaveSep 20, 2017 02:55240866
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