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Abdulaziz ibn Saud and Winston Churchill - blasphemers and the fear of exposing them

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Submitted by Martin J. Malliet (Belgium), Aug 16, 2017 at 07:57

My question really was about Churchill, and about Muslim leaders and democratic representatives, rather than about 'group mentality'.

I had the TV on yesterday and watched with one eye a BBC2 programme on the 1947 partition of India. And I got the distinct feeling that it was as 'biased by evenhandedness' as what bbcwatch.org normally accuses the BBC of for their coverage of the 'intractable conflict' in Palestine. 'Sectarian violence', 'inexplicable carnage on both sides', etc. When it seems that Muslim leaders and their followers have an obvious problem with accepting 'equality before the law' for all those whom they shamelessly call 'infidels'. Someone should tell them that usurping God's authority when judging one's neighbour is the gravest form of blasphemy, the only unpardonable sin. Which means that even God, who is great and merciful, cannot forgive you.

So I wondered whether Winston Churchill may have had the courage to do so, at least in private, without giving it any publicity, so that Abdulaziz ibn Saud could save face. Or whether President Trump might have the 'balls' to do it. Because it is about time someone did. If you ask me.

If every teacher started his explanation of the 'intractable conflict' by giving his pupils just these two quotes to consider, to compare, and to analyse, his teaching might start to make some sense to them. "Verily, the word of Allah teaches us, and we implicitly believe it, that for a Muslim to kill a Jew, or for him to be killed by a Jew, ensures him immediate entry into Heaven and into the august presence of Allah." (Abdulaziz ibn Saud) - "We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children. We cannot forgive them for forcing us to kill their children. We will only have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us." (Golda Meir)


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Title Commenter Date Thread
Churchill criticized Islam for the wrong reason [265 words]PrashantSep 21, 2017 16:16240885
It ought to be obvious from the wording that his criticism isn't simply based on this anecdote [17 words]AnonSep 22, 2017 18:41240885
This is not a win [6 words]Jon PurizhanskyAug 10, 2017 12:45240446
Winston Churchill and Abdulaziz ibn Saud - champagne and Jew hatred [75 words]Martin J. MallietAug 1, 2017 14:35240328
The Saudi Muslims may make peace with the Jews before the South Korean Christians do with the Japanese [109 words]Michael SAug 11, 2017 04:37240328
Abdulaziz ibn Saud and Winston Churchill - blasphemers and the fear of exposing them [312 words]Martin J. MallietAug 16, 2017 07:57240328
This "Fascist Deplorable" no longer cares about Churchill, or any other European [78 words]Michael SAug 22, 2017 08:44240328
Amor sui usque ad contemptum Dei vs amor Dei usque ad contemptum sui [40 words]Martin J. MallietAug 23, 2017 09:17240328
I support my President, plain and simple [33 words]Michael SAug 28, 2017 01:56240328
...huh? [106 words]Michael SJul 28, 2017 04:40240272
sadly .. [52 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Anne JulienneJul 25, 2017 03:17240195
The Muslims should learn from Hitler [26 words]Michael SJul 25, 2017 02:05240191
two paths from the same way [83 words]frankzJul 24, 2017 23:45240188
Churchill never changed: 1899 & 1948 [24 words]RichardJul 24, 2017 21:34240180
1In the eyes of the contemporary left, Churchill was a far-right figure, a xenophobe and an Islamophobe [227 words]AnonJul 24, 2017 18:53240179

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