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Potential Responses and Their Possible Consequences

Reader comment on item: A "Pig" Incident in Jerusalem
in response to reader comment: Radical Islam is real

Submitted by Sigmund Derman (United States), Aug 12, 2015 at 14:08

I'm an outsider, an American Jew and not an Israeli. But such things concern me because hatred of Israel, and by a very reasonable extension, hatred of Jews in general is something that threatens me and my family even though I live far from the epicenter of it all.

I cannot tell Israelis, who are in the midst of these things, what to do. But I do have some thoughts to share even though I expect that they will not be well received by most on this forum.

When one does something (or chooses not to act) one frequently has an expectation regarding the effect of the action or "non-action." What are the expectations in this case?

One can do what these Jewish ladies are doing. They get a sort of benefit, not so much of the religious kind that one might hope for on the Mount but the kind of satisfaction that one gets from slamming someone on an internet forum (sort of the way that someone may well criticize what I am saying here). That's worth something. But they are not going to change the Muslims, at least for the good. They might make them a little angrier at Jews and at Israel than they already are but probably not much. I doubt the Muslim women will stop doing what they are doing

Or, they can choose to do nothing. Simply try their best to ignore what has been intended to disturb them. This will not change the Muslims either. But it might allow the Jewish women to get some other benefits, some solace or some religious inspiration from being at the Temple Mount.

But suppose the Jewish ladies tried something different. Suppose they said "have a beautiful day" and handed them a small flower (and not a toxic one). I would have said to give them a cookie but that might provoke charges of trying to poison them so a flower would be better. I think that could give the Jewish women some satisfaction of a different kind, a bit of a feeling that they had acted on a higher moral plane than the Muslims. It might not change the Muslim women either but, if this and similar responses were continued over time, I think such activities would be more likely to yield positive changes in the Muslims than either the ignoring approach or the more hostile approach, possibly even inducing the Muslim women to stop doing what they have been doing.

I'm not naive enough to imagine that this would bring peace. But I think this would be an interesting and rather inexpensive experiment.


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Title Commenter Date Thread
Pig [28 words]AlbertE.Dec 13, 2015 22:51227043
Nice Guys Finish Last [50 words]Liz WagnerAug 11, 2015 13:42224648
6An excellent idea! [52 words]BG DavisAug 2, 2015 16:39224540
1Pigs and other sordid matters [109 words]dhimmi no moreAug 4, 2015 06:05224540
2ONE STANDARD of behavior for Jews and Muslims [33 words]EdwardJul 31, 2015 15:51224517
... including susceptibility to arrest and prosecution [24 words]A6ZAug 3, 2015 17:13224517
truth be told.. [6 words]manar bint allahJul 31, 2015 01:10224511
4re the woman who cried "Pig!" [58 words]Jascha KesslerJul 31, 2015 00:50224509
3the new J├╝dische Ghetto-Polizei [413 words]Charles MartelJul 30, 2015 20:50224504
where your comment appears [12 words]A6ZAug 3, 2015 17:16224504
Israel and arabs [49 words]MariadeeAug 8, 2015 09:50224504
flight of fantasy [45 words]Mohammed Waza Khiddif Id'ullahAug 12, 2015 02:51224504
winged donkeys [34 words]Charles MartelAug 14, 2015 00:47224504
3Allah is merciful [41 words]yuvalJul 30, 2015 10:31224492
4Where is Allah when you need him [151 words]dhimmi no moreAug 9, 2015 06:51224492
1Latest Twist in Islam: Shutup and Drop Dead [161 words]DaveJul 30, 2015 10:17224491
Pigs in space [373 words]Avinoam Ben DorJul 30, 2015 01:58224486
2Qur'an is anti-Jewish hate literature, plain and simple. [51 words]Michael SAug 5, 2015 21:17224486
3a way to solve the problem [46 words]Charles MartelAug 11, 2015 14:00224486
Response to "Pigs in Space". Where is Mr. Spock? [18 words]Michael SAug 15, 2015 02:41224486
It's the Israeli Jews' fault, not the Muslims' [52 words]Michael SJul 30, 2015 01:27224485
1Of PC & PC [123 words]steven lJul 29, 2015 23:27224484
1The rise of Mahdism [76 words]Jai HindJul 29, 2015 20:14224483
2The pig incident [27 words]Edmond BeniacarJul 29, 2015 19:53224482
3What is common between Christian Churches, Hindu Temples, and Jewish Synagogues? [156 words]PrashantJul 29, 2015 19:48224481
3Radical Islam is real [104 words]Saul SteinJul 29, 2015 17:37224480
Potential Responses and Their Possible Consequences [438 words]Sigmund DermanAug 12, 2015 14:08224480
3My word to Prime Minister Netanyahu [409 words]NuritGJul 29, 2015 15:52224478
1Ethics, PC and pseudo-Ethics [109 words]steven LJul 30, 2015 16:48224478
Please stay on topic [21 words]BG DavisAug 2, 2015 16:44224478
Don't upset the savages. [5 words]Ken PerlmanJul 29, 2015 15:43224477
8Khanzeer truly [88 words]George KeselmanJul 29, 2015 15:39224476
5Freedom of Speech [54 words]AbrahamJul 29, 2015 13:41224474
3Same problem exists in the UK [52 words]EdwardAug 1, 2015 02:47224474

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