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Ayaan Hirsi Ali and "Heretic"

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Mar 22, 2015 at 16:15

Dr. Pipes

Ayaan Hirsi Ali in her latest book "Heretic" addresses the issues of how to reform Islam and the origin of Islamic violence and what to do about it

http://www.amazon.com/Heretic-Why-Islam-Needs-Reformation/dp/0062333933

She tells the readers that Islam is not a religion of peace not back then and not now because there are doctrines in Islam that incite violence, destruction of "idols", enslavement of non Muslims, destruction of places of worship for non Muslims, charging non Muslims a mafia tax called al-Jizya, murder and mayhem

She also tells the readers that our leaders are not right when they tell us that Da'sh is not the real Islam when it is the real Islam.

She also goes to the sources of such doctirnes of violence and they are from the Qur'an and Kutub al-Fiqh al-Islami and to deny such fact is no more than hiding our heads in the sand

So far so good.

However, she divides Muslims into Meccan Muslims (what brother Rachid calls those that promote al-Islam al-Cute) or those lovey dovey Muslims. The second group is what she calls Medina Muslims or those that advocate and practice violence in the name of Islam

The last group are the reformers from المعتزلة or al-Mu'tazala in the late 8th and 9th centuries to el-Sisi who just called for reforming Islam and the likes of Muhammad Abdu in Egypt some 100 years ago or Sheikh Tahtawi 150 years ago

I really believe that this is very flawed. Islam is really a pachage that you take all of it or you leave the faith as many Muslims are doing these days. Take the case of Egypt: There are many enlightened Muslims that for example care about the rights of the Copts and the Shia in Egypt but when it comes to let us say building houses of worship or hiring members of these groups in let us say universities of governership positionsor the security apparatus they will be the first ones to oppose such hiring and the same very enlightened people would want to be ruled by the Islamic Sharia

Sunni Islam (which is really the problem) needs the following

1. It needs a Pope or a leader.

2. It also needs reformers that admit that there is too much violence in the text of the Qur'an and if Jews and Christians do not advocate the violence that one finds in the OT then Muslims can do the same. The real problem here is that the Qur'an is the word of Allah all of it so you cannot pick and chose what you want and discard what you do not want

3. If Islamophobia means that The criticism of Sunni Islam is not allowed then Islam will never change because who wants to be called even this bogus Islamophobe

I give the book 2 stars it is not really her best book


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I am with her that Muslims can make whatever changes to Islam that they wish.

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