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Submitted by Alexandros (United Kingdom), Aug 18, 2014 at 06:25

First of all the polls you are reading are a big story on their own and Israel should be concerned, because such poles supported by the American-Jewish council or at least exploited, really frustrate the people against Israel with no reason and they are completely and utterly stupid. Recently i read a title on the Greek news, that the Greeks were first in anti-semitism and when i kept reading the article and the questions in the poll and i ended up really annoyed. For example, my favourite team is San Antonio Spurs in America and i am being questioned if i think that Gregg Popovich is the coach that can beat everyone in the NBA, if Tim Duncan can dominate every opponent Center and my yes has as a result that i am anti-spurs fan. So what you read is very weird in a sense. The quality of the opinion towards the jewish, among the Greeks, the Turks and the Cypriots is completely different.

The Greek and Cypriots people, believe that the Jews have a lot of power in their hands and a great influence on the American government, which is something that everyone around the world believes and it is quite true! This doesn't mean that they hate the Jews, they just recognise the situation. The strategic relation of Israel with Turkey the past decades, made some Greeks to stand against Israel, because of that relation. The Turks recognise the same thing, but having a vast population of Islamists makes them pure anti-zionists and anti-Jews.

In the beginning for example i believed that Erdogan was just a pragmatist and went against Israel because he wanted to exploit other gains with such a movement, but to do so he used rhetorics that were very anti-jewish, which was the reason for gaining the support of the Turkish majority and explains the Turkish anti-semitism and now i am not quite sure if he doesn't believe what he says as well! In Greece such rhetoric wouldn't have a similar result, even the Neo_Nazi party, whose leadership is now in jail, hided this aspect of their ideology, so to gain and sustain power! In Fact it was the American Jewish council that made the people suspicious against the Jews, because on the one hand Harris was accusing Golden Dawn constantly and in my opinion he surpassed the limits of mixing in the internal affairs of a country and on the other hand he didn't have to say anything about the actual and real Neo-Nazis of Ukraine who have taken over the country!

In any case, you have to separate what the people feel from any political action in Greece and in Cyprus and in any country i would say, because politicians are more pragmatists in the best case and the people are sentimental! The facts are that Greece and Turkey are officialy allies in NATO, so starting a war one against the other is a difficult thing, but not an impossible one, especially from the Turksih side! Greek politicians, especially after what happened in Cyprus, they keep a defending and self defeating attitude, because they know, not only that America is not backing them up, but also, that they are backing Turkey! In my opinion i think that this is a Greek failure from every aspect, especially since in America live more than 3 million people who claim a Greek geneology.

Also, the fact that the American foreign policy is designed so to protect Israel, correctly in my opinion, but also the fact that some American-Jews, like Henry Kissinger, have been very pro-Turkish have caused a disbelief to the Greeks concerning on what the Jews and Israel think about Greece. This though is on a political level, on a personal level, nobody has problems in Greece, you can ask the Turks, who come for holiday every year or whoever, Greeks invented Philoxenia (friend of the foreign).

As for Cyprus, even though Cyprus doesn't belong to NATO, Cyprus is a part of the Hellenic nation, even though not a part of Greece, it is a Greek state and if something is to happen in Cyprus, the people are ready to go to war for her as were in 1974, even though the Greek politicians betrayed the people back then! I wouldn't say that people would be ready to go to war against Turkey for Israel and that is because there is a disbelief, but i have to say, that a lot of people see Israel with a different eye nowadays and after the will of the Israeli government to collaborate with Greece, but there is a lack of trust still! Well they would never support Turkey agaisnt Israel for example, the opposite is much more possible. The fact though, that Greece is a NATO member, would make it very difficult politically for Greece to go against Turkey! In the end i think that a war between Turkey and Israel is a much more unlikely event to happen compared to a war between Greece and Turkey, because the Turks are scared to start a war with Israel, since Israel has a very strong army, but also the American backing and on the contrary they know that probably nobody is going to support Greece in a conflict, even if they had to and because they feel stronger than us as well. In my opinion actually the Turkish army is being armed in a way that makes it clear that they want to attack Greece. Not that they want to conquer all the land, but most of the Aegean Islands, the rest of Cyprus and Thrace, for sure!

Cyprus can't stand alone against Turkey of course, but the Cypriots know that they have the constant support of Greece, even if it isn't shouted and of course the support of Israel now!

In my opinion the major problem of our region, is by far Turkey! If Turkey stopped being nationalist and imperialist tomorrow, then everyone would be able to collaborate, live in peace and flourish. But, this is not going to happen so...

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