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The Qur'an says that Allah gave the land of Israel to the Jewish people so do you disagree with Allah our dear GoD?

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Feb 7, 2014 at 08:49

Our dear GoD who lives among jewish and Christian kuffar that pay the cost of his welfare and medical benefits and who does not realize that the Canadian Human Rights Commission could go after him for spreading hate and you can be deported our dear GoD the wannabe Arab

it is neither

Wa mikum nastafeed

Tel Avivi is Tell Al-Rabee'a in Arabic, an Arab city that was occupied by the British in 1917 and by te Zionists in 1948

Really? there was a city called تل الربيع and not Tel Aviv in 1917 where is your evidence?

Tel Aviv's name in Arabic is تل ابيب and not تل الربيع otherwise we should start calling let us say اسكندرية which was invaded by your Arab masters in 642CE as Ἀλεξάνδρεια after all it was built by Alexander the great (who is a Muslims prophet!) deal? and we can also give it back to the Greeks and the Copts and send back to al-Hijaz all your Arab masters in Alexandria deal?

Now you tell me how come your Arab masters do not call it تل الربيع? And you are ignorant Tel Aviv was built by the Jewish people starting in 2009 outside the city of Yafa (which is a Syriac name and not an Arabic name)

http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AA%D9%84_%D8%A3%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%A8

And as a matter of fact almost all the names of places in Israel and Palestine are Syriac and Hebrew names as in Gaza, Yafa, 3Aka, Ariha and why is that Mr ignorant?

As a matter of fact your Arab masters know very well that Jews and Christians call it ارشليم or Urshaleem and not al-Quds

Even your Arab masters that came from al-Hijaz and invaded the land of Israel that your Allah as we are told by al-Tabari and Ibn Kathir and al-Qurtubi was given by Allah to the Jewish people Urshaleem inculded so do you disagree with your Allah our dear GoD the lost tablighee? Would you like me to tell you what the Qur'an tells us about the fact that ارض المعاد or the promised land extends from the Euphrates to Egypt's al-Arish (which is another Syriac name)? So do you disagree with your so called Allah our dear GoD?

Jerusalem is Al-Quds in Arabic,

And it was occupied by the barbarian Arabs that came from al-Hijaz to spread islam a religion that must be held responsible for the murder of millions of your Hindu ancestors

an Arab Muslim Holy city that was occupied by the British in 1917 and by the Zionists in 1948 and the rest of it was occupied in 1967

the name of the city of Jerusalem when your Arab masters invaded Palestine (which is not an Arabic word either) in 636CE and it was Aelia and continued to be called Aelia by your Arab masters (if you do not believe me then read al-Tabari's Tarikh) until the Ulama decided that the allusions of al-Masjid al-Aqsa in Surat Bani Israel must be Jerusalem and this is why they called Bayt al-Maqdas aka al-Quds

See? it is all lies by the imperialist Arabs

So neither are Jewish cites - because there are no Jewish cites in the whole world

Well let us have a deal get your Muslim masters in Egypt to leave Islamic cities like Alexandria deal?

The fact is the entity so called Israel is ILLEGAL

Well it seems that you disagree with Allah and here is from an old post of mine

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jul 27, 2013 at 10:10

For the readers: The author of the Qur'an and not me says that Allah Palestine belongs to the Jews!

Now let us read Q5:21

ياقوم ادخلوا الارض المقدسة التي كتب الله لكم

Or O people (the Jewish people and these are Moses' words) enter the holy land which Allah assigned to you

So it says

1. That Allah assigned a holy land for the Jewish people

2. He is saying that they can enter such land and it belongs to them

3. But notice the author does not tell us where is this holy land

Well the ulama were ready to help and let us see what al-Tabari is saying about this disaster

الْقَوْل فِي تَأْوِيل قَوْله تَعَالَى : { يَا قَوْم اُدْخُلُوا الْأَرْض الْمُقَدَّسَة } وَهَذَا خَبَر مِنْ اللَّه عَزَّ ذِكْره عَنْ قَوْل مُوسَى صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ لِقَوْمِهِ مِنْ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيل , وَأَمْره إِيَّاهُمْ عَنْ أَمْر اللَّه إِيَّاهُ , يَأْمُرهُمْ بِدُخُولِ الْأَرْض الْمُقَدَّسَة . ثُمَّ اِخْتَلَفَ أَهْل التَّأْوِيل فِي الْأَرْض الَّتِي عَنَاهَا بِالْأَرْضِ الْمُقَدَّسَة , فَقَالَ بَعْضهمْ : عَنَى بِذَلِكَ : الطُّور وَمَا حَوْله . ذِكْر مَنْ قَالَ ذَلِكَ : 9086 - حَدَّثَنِي مُحَمَّد بْن عَمْرو , قَالَ : ثنا أَبُو عَاصِم , قَالَ : ثنا عِيسَى , عَنْ اِبْن أَبِي نَجِيح , عَنْ مُجَاهِد : الْأَرْض الْمُقَدَّسَة : الطُّور وَمَا حَوْله . * - حَدَّثَنِي الْمُثَنَّى , قَالَ : ثنا أَبُو حُذَيْفَة , قَالَ : ثنا شِبْل , عَنْ اِبْن أَبِي نَجِيح , عَنْ مُجَاهِد , مِثْله . 9087 - حَدَّثَنِي الْحَارِث بْن مُحَمَّد , قَالَ : ثنا عَبْد الْعَزِيز , قَالَ : ثنا سُفْيَان , عَنْ الْأَعْمَش , عَنْ مُجَاهِد , عَنْ اِبْن عَبَّاس : { اُدْخُلُوا الْأَرْض الْمُقَدَّسَة } قَالَ : الطُّور وَمَا حَوْله . وَقَالَ آخَرُونَ : هُوَ الشَّام . ذِكْر مَنْ قَالَ ذَلِكَ : 9088 - حَدَّثَنَا الْحَسَن بْن يَحْيَى , قَالَ : أَخْبَرَنَا عَبْد الرَّزَّاق , قَالَ : أَخْبَرَنَا مَعْمَر , عَنْ قَتَادَة فِي قَوْله : { الْأَرْض الْمُقَدَّسَة } قَالَ : هِيَ الشَّام . وَقَالَ آخَرُونَ : هِيَ أَرْض أَرِيحَاء . ذِكْر مَنْ قَالَ ذَلِكَ : 9089 - حَدَّثَنِي يُونُس , قَالَ : أَخْبَرَنَا اِبْن وَهْب , قَالَ : قَالَ اِبْن زَيْد فِي قَوْله : { اُدْخُلُوا الْأَرْض الْمُقَدَّسَة الَّتِي كَتَبَ اللَّه لَكُمْ } قَالَ : أَرِيحَاء . 9090 - حَدَّثَنِي يُوسُف بْن هَارُون , قَالَ : ثنا عَمْرو بْن حَمَّاد , قَالَ : ثنا أَسْبَاط , عَنْ السُّدِّيّ , قَالَ : هِيَ أَرِيحَاء . 9091 - حَدَّثَنِي عَبْد الْكَرِيم بْن الْهَيْثَم , قَالَ : ثنا إِبْرَاهِيم بْن بَشَّار , قَالَ : ثنا سُفْيَان , عَنْ أَبِي سَعِيد , عَنْ عِكْرِمَة , عَنْ اِبْن عَبَّاس , قَالَ : هِيَ أَرِيحَاء . وَقِيلَ : إِنَّ الْأَرْض الْمُقَدَّسَة : دِمَشْق وَفِلَسْطِين وَبَعْض الْأُرْدُن . وَعَنَى بِقَوْلِهِ { الْمُقَدَّسَة } الْمُطَهَّرَة الْمُبَارَكَة . كَمَا : 9092 - حَدَّثَنِي مُحَمَّد بْن عَمْرو , قَالَ : ثنا أَبُو عَاصِم , قَالَ : ثنا عِيسَى , عَنْ اِبْن أَبِي نَجِيح , عَنْ مُجَاهِد : { الْأَرْض الْمُقَدَّسَة } قَالَ : الْمُبَارَكَة . * - حَدَّثَنِي الْمُثَنَّى , قَالَ : ثنا أَبُو حُذَيْفَة , قَالَ : ثنا شِبْل , عَنْ اِبْن أَبِي نَجِيح , عَنْ مُجَاهِد , بِمِثْلِهِ . وَأَوْلَى الْأَقْوَال فِي ذَلِكَ بِالصَّوَابِ , أَنْ يُقَال : هِيَ الْأَرْض الْمُقَدَّسَة , كَمَا قَالَ نَبِيّ اللَّه مُوسَى صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ . لِأَنَّ الْقَوْل فِي ذَلِكَ بِأَنَّهَا أَرْض دُون أَرْض , لَا تُدْرَك حَقِيقَة صِحَّته إِلَّا بِالْخَبَرِ , وَلَا خَبَر بِذَلِكَ يَجُوز قَطْع الشَّهَادَة بِهِ , غَيْر أَنَّهَا لَنْ تَخْرُج مِنْ أَنْ تَكُون مِنْ الْأَرْض الَّتِي بَيْن الْفُرَات وَعَرِيش مِصْر لِإِجْمَاعِ جَمِيع أَهْل التَّأْوِيل وَالسِّيَر وَالْعُلَمَاء بِالْأَخْبَارِ عَلَى ذَلِكَ .

And here is what al-Tabari tells us that this holy land assigned by Allah to the Jews or الارض كتبها الله لبنى اسراءيل is

1. الطور وماحوله or al-Tur (read this as Mount Sinai and what is around it ie: the Sinai

What a disaster the Sinai belongs to the Jews

2. قال اخارون هو الشام or other said it is al-Sham read this as Syria and Lebenon

What a disaster Syria and Lebanon belong to the Jews

3. هي ارض اريحاء or it is the land of Jericho (Ariha in Syriac and Arabic)

What a disaster now we are in Palestine

4. دمشق وفلسطين وبعض الاردن or Damascus and PALESTINE and parts of Jordan

It is all in black and white Palestine belongs as per Allah to the Jewish people also Damascus and Jordan

And you think we should tell the jihadis in Syria that this land belongs to the Jews as per Allah? what do you think they would do? Riots may be

You think we should tell Hamas to pack and go back to al-Hijaz because Allah gave this land to the Jews? What do you think they would do? Riot may be? But it is in the Qur'an

5. الارض بين الفرات وعريش مصر or the land between the Euphrates and the town of al-Arish in Egypt!

What a disaster

Oh you do not believe me here more from al-Tabari telling us about this disaster

وَيَعْنِي بِقَوْلِهِ : { الَّتِي كَتَبَ اللَّه لَكُمْ } الَّتِي أَثْبَتَ فِي اللَّوْح الْمَحْفُوظ أَنَّهَا لَكُمْ مَسَاكِن , وَمَنَازِل دُون الْجَبَابِرَة الَّتِي فِيهَا . فَإِنْ قَالَ قَائِل : فَكَيْفَ قَالَ : { الَّتِي كَتَبَ اللَّه لَكُمْ } , وَقَدْ عَلِمْت أَنَّهُمْ لَمْ يَدْخُلُوهَا بِقَوْلِهِ : { فَإِنَّهَا مُحَرَّمَة عَلَيْهِمْ } ؟ فَكَيْفَ يَكُون مُثْبَتًا فِي اللَّوْح الْمَحْفُوظ أَنَّهَا مَسَاكِن لَهُمْ , وَمُحَرَّمًا عَلَيْهِمْ سُكْنَاهَا ؟ قِيلَ : إِنَّهَا كُتِبَتْ لِبَنِي إِسْرَائِيل دَارًا وَمَسَاكِن , وَقَدْ سَكَنُوهَا وَنَزَلُوهَا , وَصَارَتْ لَهُمْ كَمَا قَالَ اللَّه جَلَّ وَعَزَّ . وَإِنَّمَا قَالَ لَهُمْ مُوسَى : { اُدْخُلُوا الْأَرْض الْمُقَدَّسَة الَّتِي كَتَبَ اللَّه لَكُمْ } يَعْنِي بِهَا : كَتَبَهَا اللَّه لِبَنِي إِسْرَائِيل - وَكَانَ الَّذِينَ أَمَرَهُمْ مُوسَى بِدُخُولِهَا مِنْ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيل - وَلَمْ يَعْنِ صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ أَنَّ اللَّه تَعَالَى ذِكْره كَتَبَهَا لِلَّذِينَ أَمَرَهُمْ بِدُخُولِهَا بِأَعْيَانِهِمْ , وَلَوْ قَالَ قَائِل : قَدْ كَانَتْ مَكْتُوبَة لِبَعْضِهِمْ , وَلِخَاصٍّ مِنْهُمْ , فَأَخْرَجَ الْكَلَام عَلَى الْعُمُوم وَالْمُرَاد مِنْهُ الْخَاصّ , إِذْ كَانَ يُوشَع وَكَالِب قَدْ دَخَلَا , وَكَانَا مِمَّنْ خُوطِبَ بِهَذَا الْقَوْل , كَانَ أَيْضًا وَجْهًا صَحِيحًا . وَبِنَحْوِ الَّذِي قُلْنَا فِي ذَلِكَ قَالَ اِبْن إِسْحَاق . 9093 - حَدَّثَنَا اِبْن حُمَيْد , قَالَ : ثنا سَلَمَة عَنْ مُحَمَّد بْن إِسْحَاق : { الَّتِي كَتَبَ اللَّه لَكُمْ } الَّتِي وَهَبَ اللَّه لَكُمْ . وَكَانَ السُّدِّيّ يَقُول : مَعْنَى " كَتَبَ " فِي هَذَا الْمَوْضِع بِمَعْنَى " أَمَرَ " . 9094 - حَدَّثَنَا بِذَلِكَ مُوسَى بْن هَارُون , قَالَ : ثنا عَمْرو بْن حَمَّاد , قَالَ : ثنا أَسْبَاط , عَنْ السُّدِّيّ : { اُدْخُلُوا الْأَرْض الْمُقَدَّسَة الَّتِي كَتَبَ اللَّه لَكُمْ } الَّتِي أَمَرَكُمْ اللَّه بِهَا .

And here al-Tabari tells us that the promised land that belongs to the Jews as per Allah one would find it in Alllah's al-lawh al-mahfuz aka Allah's little tablet in his heaven!

What a disaster Allah is saying that Palestine and Syria and Jordan and Lebanon and the Sinai and the land from the Euphrates to the town of al-Arish in Egypt indeed belongs to the Jews

Oh next? It will be Ibn kathir and al-Qurtubi and their take on this little disaster

So you tell us our dear GoD do you disagree with your Allah and with your islamic sources that tell us that the land of Palestine belong to the Jewish people?

I pity you


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