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Submitted by servet cevik (Turkey), Oct 22, 2013 at 04:24

yes i am writing from the city which has been called as constantinople by greeks who were its previous owners and has been renamed as istanbul by its current occupiers who defeated the greeks and got the city (not the city only actually the whole of anatolia/asia minor) thanks to the helping soldiers and swords of kurds, a very very long lasting alliance beginning with the war of manzikert at 1071. (nearly a thousand years huh)

you must be writing from the occupied USA which actually belonged to native indians in north america once upon a time and than which has been occupied by its present owners after having defeated native indians. if i knew your city i would also provide you with its indian name too.

kurds were actually very eager and happy to collaborate with turks on every term because they got a generous share of some of the most fertile and precious land on earth. and even now kurds occupy and enjoy nearly all the land and property left from the armenians. it is not turks who settled on the ex-armenian property in eastern anatolia but it is kurds. and now if they wish to create an independent state on these previous ottoman and previous seljuk and previous eastroman and previous urartu (armenian) and previous neolithic and previous bronze age and previous stone age societies i have no objection if they CAN. We can even move into your country if you can manage to create one which has freedom and prosperity and stability and safety and resources and democracy.

as for religion i dont give a ... on any of them let it be islam or christianity or judaism so feel free to move your mouth around anyway you like. fyi i am an atheist.

as for "barbarian turks" check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocides_in_history and see for yourself if you can find any major power not listed there.

relax. there is a reason why kurds never ever had any real independent state of any sort. i leave you alone on thinking and speculating about what might be those reasons. please share with us your intellectual findings when you come to any conclusion.

servet çevik

p.s. what sort of a "history lesson" are you planning to teach those students of independent kurdistan once you achieve this goal? is there any kurdish history without turks?

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Title Commenter Date Thread
2Kurdish Independence [130 words]emmettOct 1, 2013 11:46210162
2Putting The Record Straight [150 words]MozereOct 2, 2013 03:26210162
2Turkish imperialism and delusions [591 words]dhimmi no moreOct 26, 2013 10:27210162
about janissaries [61 words]servet cevikOct 28, 2013 14:44210162
yeni ceri [39 words]roger spleenOct 29, 2013 06:05210162
1The Janissaries were abducted Christian boys! What a crime [229 words]dhimmi no moreNov 1, 2013 07:37210162
Added resources [9 words]David W. LincolnSep 30, 2013 14:59210152
1Question on a Kurdish State [47 words]
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DavidSep 29, 2013 15:01210135
4The Kurds should have their own country [138 words]dhimmi no moreSep 29, 2013 07:57210125
3do your math carefully [319 words]servet cevikOct 14, 2013 16:21210125
3The Kurds and the barbarians [321 words]dhimmi no moreOct 20, 2013 07:56210125
5facts rule over our personal ideas and wishes [393 words]servet cevikOct 22, 2013 04:24210125
4The Kurds and the barbarians part two [904 words]dhimmi no moreOct 23, 2013 07:25210125
1Empires [142 words]Kemal TarikOct 25, 2013 18:00210125
3Exposing Turkish propagandists [48 words]dhimmi no moreOct 27, 2013 07:33210125
8a turkish saying goes "such amount of ignorance is only possible by special training" [1247 words]servet cevikOct 27, 2013 20:33210125
And there is a Kuffar saying: The Turks murdered millions of Armenians and Greeks and Syrians and they still deny it [65 words]dhimmi no moreOct 29, 2013 08:28210125

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