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Israelite Prophecies Still Stand the Test of Time

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Submitted by M. Tovey (United States), Jul 8, 2013 at 11:33

….and yet again, another reverent of Islam tries, ever so hard, to divert the attention needed for truth; but still, do not be regretful for your mere mention; only be regretful that it does not bear a true witness to the facts at hand. Abraham was a mere mortal as any of us and his diversion from understanding what the Eternal Father had promised has brought us to this place of needing Divine intervention to understand the truth as spoken of by the Israelite prophets and to be contrasted with the Islamic Prophet.

We must be reminded that the Islamic Prophet did not believe the Jewish prophets because of the witness that his contemporaries corrupted the Messianic message he heard. In that vein, they needed to rewrite the status of Ishmael in order to diminish the status of Yeshua HaMashiach as the Son of the Eternal Father. The followers of the Islamic Prophet needed to rewrite the status of Ishmael in order to retake that which was perceived as lost to them in the promises; for they did not want the promises given to Hagar, they wanted the promises given to Abraham through Sarah.

Any similarity between the Jewish prophets and the Islamic Prophets can be explained by understanding the need to take what was written in 'the Book' and make enough of a minor adjustment to allow for those who do not really know the book to think just as you have premised. The Israelites were not alone in the corruption you perceive of the Gospel message; the initial lies from the foot of the very cross of Yeshua's sacrifice for our sins were quite pervasive at the time of the Islamic Prophet or he would never have gained the following he did.

Here is irony; what was done was predicted in the Hebrew Scriptures and is quite easily seen when one knows where to look. The words and WORD of 'the Book' were never corrupted; only in their interpretation by 'men of logic' (gnostics by one name) was corruption encountered by demonic design. Stay true to the WORD and the word will stay true to its message.

You said "[W]hat you say is untrue, because in no time the message of [the Islamic Prophet] was different than the message of the Israelites Prophets, in fact they are similar…..; an antithetical statement that introduces its own argument of differences, for at one time they had to be different if they are ONLY SIMILAR, and not EXACTLY THE SAME. Where was the logic in that?

Here is truth: the Israelite prophets predicted that the line of Abraham would lead to Israel's Messiah, Who on His first appearance was condemned by His own to the cross, that by His death and resurrection mankind had a chance to ask for His forgives to see the face of the Almighty Father in His love; and the Islamic Prophet does not agree with that. I'm sorry, there is no human logic for that, only Eternal logic; and for that reasoning alone the Hebrew Scriptures retain their truth and the Islamic Prophet cannot be reconciled with that.

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israel is jewish state [45 words]pamanApr 9, 2013 16:44205049
Fill in the blanks. Draw a map. [115 words]LynnApr 6, 2013 10:49204975
1Let's not suggest that in 1947 the U.N. partitioned Palestine [221 words]
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UN Partition of Palestine violated international law [154 words]Salomon BenzimraApr 6, 2013 22:38204958
2Let's not suggest that in 1947 the U.N. partitioned Palestine [331 words]Marjorie Stamm RosenfeldApr 7, 2013 03:00204958
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