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Israel at Peace

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Submitted by Paul la Demain (United States), Dec 17, 2012 at 03:34

We have our own views and here are a few:

Peace comes only after one or the other combatant is vanquished. For example: US prevailed over Japan and now the two countries trade with each other. What do you think would have occurred had Germany and Japan vanquished Europe and the US? You think Jews and Chinese would be viable ethnicities today had Japan and Germany won WWII?

Trotting down the path of your prognostications and assuming your arguments are sound, in our minds new questions must arise: What kind of peace follows the conflict? The "peace" brought about via a dictatorship over the enslaved? Or the "peace" of the republic governing those free to choose who will enact the will of the governed? Either form can arrive through antagonist mediums: through the medium of democracy or through the medium of a dictatorship. For instance, the fascists rose to power over Germany via democratic means. The Muslim Brotherhood and Sharia rose to power over Egypt through a US-sponsored revolution followed by a rigged democratic election. Saddam Hussein created "peace" within Iraq via tyrannical means.

What will happen to Israel if the loud claque of politically stupid Jews prevail, that is, those Jews who support "Muslims ├╝ber Jews" with the absurd notion that their Jewish Wonderfulness will seduce their would-be exterminators? In our opinion this is or was the fervent fantastical self-immolating desire of Shimon Peres and Ehud Barak and Yossi Beilin.

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Daniel Pipes replies:

You observe that "Peace comes only after one or the other combatant is vanquished," as though this is something I would disagree with.

But no, I have written precisely this again and again. For one example from 2009, see Part II ofhttp://www.danielpipes.org/7653/peace-process-or-war-process

As for "what kind of peace," I discuss this in the above article; look for Martin Sherman's name.

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