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Submitted by M. Tovey (United States), Dec 5, 2012 at 18:54

The premise that Israel is an occupier and not its own sovereign national entity is an argument of futility; that while many, even a majority, sees Israel as a passing Zionist fancy, such is not going to be the case, no matter how much one might argue the commonsense of a natural course. Were the people of Israel as fragile as many would like to think, their bull-doggedness in maintaining their precarious situation in the Middle East will continue to defy the obsession of her enemies to extricate Israel out of the land.

Israel never had the chance to call any place they were exiled to 'home,' the antipathies of their plight sometimes tolerated under some beneficence for the convenience of a period of time, but eventually the latent hatred for the Jewish people on a whole always came to the surface for reasons best understood from the prophetic perspective. Not too many will engage in that proposition. And that proposition is further complicated by the resurgence of anti-Semitism in the places the Jewish population once sojourned in; a return no longer considered viable for millions of those who have made 'aliyah.'

Considering the Jewish nation a 'Zionist' state is quite apropos; since it is a Zionist state for quite a good reason. Were I Jewish, I would accept the Zionist appellation as a badge of honor. But I am instead Zionist by affirmation of the facts of Israel's existence and their very right to exist exactly where they are. It was taken from them before; they will always hold title from now on through their Almighty Sovereign.

The legends of the 'nakba' from a 'Palestinian' perspective are compelling from the situation that 'Palestine' did have an indigent population, but it was never only those of Arabic descent and many were transient. The refugee situation was handled quite poorly, not by the Israeli's, but by the people themselves who, because of their abiding hatred of the Jewish people, fled to other places they erroneously thought were truly sympathetic to their cause. It has been said to find any significant 'Palestinian' refugee presence in Saudi Arabia (and other locations) is difficult; if it is true, then why? All they not all cousins in ethnicity?

As to the demonization of a people, while one can easily make the argument that 'Palestinian' refugees are a people not welcomed in their host locations, Israel is targeted by the Adversary for adversity at every turn, not so much for being in the land as in a practical observation, but 'Jews' are not too welcome in very many places anymore away from the land they now possess. And the charters and promises of Israel's enemies are sworn in blood oaths in the hatred of the Jewish people, to seek and eliminate them altogether in a nightmare of a modern holocaust. It would not be too much of a reach to say that is the spoken desire of the Iranian leadership and others of similar mindsets.

To point out a human thought of why Israel still exists after all the attempts to extricate her from the land, when one sees that Israel will have remained long after 76 years, after the world makes its United Nations attempt to divide and conquer Israel, what will be the prognostication then? The Jewish people have existed for thousands of years in spite of some of the most intensive efforts to eradicate them form the world scene: one would think that there is some underlying reason why – and why they will be able to resist any such efforts from now on, now wouldn't one?


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1Hayzaboon go home! Midan Qasr el-Nil Cairo June 30/2013 [73 words]dhimmi no moreJun 30, 2013 14:46207447
3حيزبون This is what they are calling the US ambassador to Egypt [118 words]dhimmi no moreJun 30, 2013 07:01207439
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7Now that is an entertaining post!! Thank you Slahy~ [70 words]stanley bNov 16, 2012 16:59200662
7Our dear slayhy is saying to the poor Egyptians: let them eat cake! Oh and he says Allah has a grandson! Astaghfirullah [479 words]dhimmi no moreNov 17, 2012 07:56200662
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2the truth about Palestine [297 words]slayhyDec 5, 2012 21:06200662
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1Logic and slayhy [420 words]dhimmi no moreDec 19, 2012 08:57200662
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2Morsi is clueless [112 words]dhimmi no moreNov 14, 2012 18:01200603
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4Our dear alex and his 15 minutes [323 words]dhimmi no moreNov 17, 2012 07:35200603

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