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in response to reader comment: Ayat la ikrah fi al-deen and can Muslims leave islam with out fear of harm being inflicted on them?

Submitted by Salama (United Arab Emirates), Sep 13, 2010 at 14:32

Dear brother in humanity. i would like to start by thanking you for your reply to me.

However i would request you that in your future replies let us keep the discussion with no sarcasm. i was brought up among people who taught me the respect of others and this is what i showed to you, and this is what i show to every person regardless of his color skin, level of society, sect or background. Everyone has something to be proud of at the end of the day. Hope that you agree with me on this.

Just a small correction for you, this Ayah which i mentioned is a confirmed and Ayah that is Mansoukhah by Ayat Al Sayf. as it talks about the right to choose your deen and what to follow. so it cannot be replaceb by the Ayat of Al Saif.

Now although i admire your insight knowledge of the versus of the Quraan, i still totally disagree with your interpretation and the way you tried to put the address to it, on the title of your reply. i have never said that:" Muslims can leave Islam without fear of harm being inflicted on them" this is what you wrote, As this will put me to trouble of allowing the disobedient of Allah and leaving his Deen after they knew it. for sure i didn't say that

what i said was "so the decision of what to believe and what to follow is up to everyone and based on his believes and own choice. And everyone would be questioned and examined by the almighty on that basis, i.e. based on every one's choice"

and please read what i underlined. There is something called the belief, and this is what you are really questioned about at the day of judgement. The believe recite in your heart. So you could be something from outside and another thing from inside and Allah knows about both. For us as human we need to take the outside part only and leave the inside part "intentions and believes " to the almighty to judge. Add to that, i think it makes a lot of sense that when you accept a law to govern you, you should take it all, the punishment and the reward out of it. Same goes for our religions.

Regarding the Ayah of Al sayf, this is another Ayah, "part of the islamic law" that i cannot argue with you about its application, but what i really mean is, still if the choice of a person not to be a Muslim, that is his choice, and this goes to those who live on Muslim Lands. And we cannot force any one to change himself, and it is not happening anyways, this is why we don't force any one to embrace Islam. For those who decided to leave Islam as a religion after being Muslims, good for them and that is their own choice, but they have to knwo the concequences, we cannot force them to get back but they have to respect the law that applies to them. However they always have other choices, just like what is happening now, they simply either travel or keep quiet about it.

Bottom line let us face it, it depends on the place you are living in. to apply the law you need to be in a place that respects that law and take it as the main guidance, but at the end still "لا إكراه في الدين " i still cannot force you to believe what you don't want to believe in, even if you announce Islam and Hide something different. so who knows better and will judge, it's Allah the Almighty. and we all know that, you and I and every single person on earth. i think you agree with me.

the above is only for clarity and confirmation. Please accept my best regards

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Title Commenter Date Thread
1Mr. [119 words]MorrisMar 20, 2010 05:56170432
Interesting news [58 words]Peter HerzMar 25, 2010 21:11170432
2Dr. Rahouma [34 words]dhimmi no moreApr 10, 2010 07:15170432
1Darwish, Pipes & Sultan join statement (Dr. M Rahouma ink ) [14 words]MorrisApr 10, 2010 23:49170432
1Darwish, Pipes & Sultan statement [33 words]MorrisApr 11, 2010 15:52170432
1Dr Rahouma [34 words]dhimmi no moreApr 12, 2010 07:06170432
1Darwish, Pipes, Sultan joint statement . [76 words]MorrisApr 12, 2010 22:07170432
Dr.M. Rahouma [50 words]MorrisApr 15, 2010 17:00170432
A small correction, With full respect !! [122 words]salamaSep 11, 2010 22:10170432
2Ayat la ikrah fi al-deen and can Muslims leave islam with out fear of harm being inflicted on them? [228 words]dhimmi no moreSep 12, 2010 07:00170432
reply to Dhimmi- no more [654 words]SalamaSep 13, 2010 14:32170432
2So what is the reason for revelation for ayat la ikrah fi al-deen? and how about the Meccan pagans did they have a choice? [1509 words]dhimmi no moreSep 15, 2010 07:32170432
Thank you for guiding me, and no need to reply unless you follow my rules [2087 words]SALAMASep 17, 2010 09:01170432
Really Enjoying International Commentaries Because Of This We Learn [347 words]D.K.Milgrim-HeathSep 18, 2010 17:54170432
2The no compulsion in religion was abrogated by the sword verse! These are not my words these are the words of your islamic sources [1504 words]dhimmi no moreSep 19, 2010 08:11170432
2Islamic comedy big time [141 words]dhimmi no moreSep 19, 2010 09:10170432
3So what is the reason for revelation of ayat la ikrah fi al-deen? and you think that I forgot? [69 words]dhimmi no moreSep 19, 2010 09:19170432
1islam is really the religion of the Arabvs only and you and i are not Arabs right?then you and I cannot become Muslims [333 words]dhimmi no moreSep 19, 2010 09:34170432
2Islamic drivel and Rabbi Hillel makes it to the Qur'an and other sordid matters [527 words]dhimmi no moreSep 19, 2010 13:34170432
4And the Islamic comedy goes on and on [121 words]dhimmi no moreSep 20, 2010 07:03170432
Translation of Coptic Conference statement [114 words]Edward ClineMar 19, 2010 09:13170405

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