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Submitted by Joe (United States), Sep 24, 2009 at 11:54

Mr. William Hill states. "even the most basic reading of the coran shows, (probably not spelled correctly) that some of the passages of that publication are clearly violent prone and present other religions and even other cultures as vermin to be exterminated."

This is far from the truth and the number one reason people without a proper understanding of the Quran fall into ignorance. No disrepect intended for Mr. Hill at all. I respect everyones beliefs, and am writing this to clear up the confusion.

The Quran was written over a period of time and the only book memorized and sealed in the hearts of it's followers while the Prophet who it was revealed to was still alive. Unlike the Bible, Torah or any other book. There is only one version of the Quran, and Muslims believe in only one GOD. Not three, or three parts, and Muslims prey and fully submit to the one and only creator.

Back to the Quran, which was revealed to Prophet Muhammad (May peace be upon him) and them immediately taught to his followers, recited, written down, and memorized on the spot. Not by one--but hundreds. The Quran was revealed by answering questions. Christians and Jews alike already had a description of Muhammad in their books, and knew the region and character of the prophet to come. Alot of them were already waiting in that region for Muhammad (May peace be upon him) to arrive. So when he did, they begin to ask questions. GOD revealed the Quran and began answering these questions as proof. So there is a meaning for that specific time period, and sometimes even a specific group or person at that time. Then there is a general meaning to mankind.

People who do not have the proper knowledge and have hidden agendas sometimes confuse the two.

"Most of the critics of Islam quote the verse kill the Mushrikoon (polytheists) where ever you find them , The Holy Quran, Chapter 9, Verse 5 to show that Quran Commands the killing of Disbelievers

This is quotation taken completely out of context. If you read the chapter (Surah At-Taubah) from the beginning the first verse talks about the treaty between the Muslims and the Mushriks (Pagans) of Mecca who used to persecute the muslims who as of yet had not retaliated.

Freedom from obligation (is proclaimed) from Allah and His messenger toward those of the idolaters with whom ye made a treaty , The Holy Quran, Chapter 9, Verse 1

In the next verse The Meccans are given four months time to set things right otherwise a declaration of War and coming to verse [9:5], the complete verse is

But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is oft-forgiving, Most merciful." The Holy Quran, Chapter 9, Verse 5

Hence if you read this in context we know that this statement was made in the battle field. Critics often fail to quote with context. Infact in the battle the Quran Commands that a person who seeks asylum should be escorted to a place of security.

If one amongst the pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure that is because they are men without knowledge." The Holy Quran, Chapter 9, Verse 6

The Quran explicitly forbids killing. Whosoever kills a human being for other than Murder or Creating Mischief in the Land, it is as if he had killed the whole of Human Kind and whoso saved the life of one as if he has saved the life of all Mankind The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 5, Verse 12

People must appreciate that the Quran contains instructions and details of incidents that occured in the past. In this case the historical background is relevant, as the reason for revelation was to enable the Muslims to defend themselves from the constant persecution from the meccans. This is not a general principle as anti islamists see it, which commands all Muslims to kill disbelievers. So either the Mulsims began to fight back or get totally wiped out by the people worshiping idols."


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When I went to Stuyvesant (1973-76), Hebrew was offered as a language. [56 words]anthony faberMay 6, 2009 05:05
Islamic Victimhood to deviate attention of Muslim's trangressions and crimes [103 words]YnnatchkahApr 19, 2008 01:20
Thanks to Dr. Pipes. [53 words]YnnatchkahApr 16, 2008 01:49
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ACLU investigation of TIZA [21 words]German ObserverApr 11, 2008 11:07
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remarkable progress.. [284 words]donvanSep 4, 2007 14:53
Israel-themed charter school held to strict constitutional standards by school board [51 words]M. FreibergSep 1, 2007 14:08
Muslim Schools in America [108 words]Iftikhar AhmadAug 29, 2007 15:58
Why expose Muslims to 'crimes' so much? [212 words]VijaySep 2, 2007 06:06
Dear Ahmad, explain please! [63 words]MosheSep 2, 2007 15:54
Discrimination against Non Muslim teachers that speak Arabic [187 words]YNNATCHKAHSep 11, 2007 01:12
To Iftikhar Ahmad- A corollary to your message. [337 words]YNNATCHKAHSep 11, 2007 01:30
Muslim Schools in America [34 words]Iftikhar AhmadSep 12, 2007 07:23
Separation of Church & State. If its good for the Christians, its good for the Islamists! [231 words]RubiconSep 21, 2007 08:51
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I see they teach taqiyya at the schools, too [68 words]Mark JamesAug 20, 2007 19:32
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