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Memri Initiative Great - Your Analysis Disappointing

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Submitted by Singha (India), Jul 23, 2009 at 08:36

Dr. Pipes ... Both your 1996 comment on the issue as well as the commentary here reflect inadequacy of scholarship on the subject. I wish you had invested more effort on the subject.

1. Idol is a judeo/xian/islamic conception. Hindus never consider the Icons they use to worship as Idols. "Idols" to Hindus is a foreign term non existent in native lexicon. This point has been explicit in the ongoing dialog between the The Chief Rabbinate of Israel and Acharya Dharma Sabha, an apex body of Hindus brought this forth in clear terms in their declaration during the Hindu Jewish Leadership summit meeting. http://www.frfnet.org/2nd-Hindu-Jewish%20Summit%20Declaration.pdf

2. Muslims dont necessarily source their conspiracy theories from the west. Both Hamid Gul and other pakistani islamists have explicitly given the source of their hypothesis as koran/sunna/seerah. Their argument is on the following lines. Mohummad had to face the hostility of pagan arabs (who they identify as present day Hindus) and of Khayber Jews (who they identify as Israeli Jews). Mohummad's efforts spread across many years to take out Mecca resulted in a stalemate. Then Mohummad changed his strategy to take out Khayber and succeeds. Subsequently Mecca falls to Mohummad through a strategem without a war. Gul kind of islamists believe history keeps repeating itself. (Of course Gul kind of Islamists preclude the possibility that if Meccan Pagans and Khayber Jews had more effectively collaborated, islam would not have seen the light of the day!)

3. It is definitely true that despite what islamists allege and despite enormous goodwill that Jews and Hindus have for each other, Jewish and especially Hindu politicians have hardly optimised the potential for collaboration. Of course Jewish and Hindu religious leaders have been far sighted and believe collaboration is in the best interests of world civilization.

There is fortunately some trickle down effect of late. There indeed is enhanced collaboration between India and Israel. India's Satellite Launch Vehicle launched Israeli spy satellite and Israel designed India's recent high visibility all weather spy satellite (India's hawkeye in the sky to monitor islamic infiltration) Pakistan it must be remembered was part of India till 1947. Cultural, ethnic, cultural, linguistic ties between Indians and Pakistanis is far and wide. Despite that, islamic exclusivism triggered pakistan movement. Pakistan was created as a monument of hate towards non muslims and manifested muslim difficulty to live with non muslims as equals. Islam's entry to Indian subcontinent was not pleasant. Famed American Historian Will Durant wrote "Islamic attack on India is probably the bloodiest story in History lesson that may be drawn from this tragedy is that eternal vigilance is the price of civilization. A nation must love peace, but keep its powder dry." A perspective on how native Indians converted to islam can be seen at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS9PjINb1MY

The arbitrary middle east/south asia divide is partly to blame for lesser western understanding of pakistan and global nature of islamist ummah's challenge. What has been mentioned by Tufail Ahmed is nothing new. Links between indian subcontinent and middle east have been historic and close. MEMRI's initiative, though belated, is welcome in addressing gaps in understanding.

MEMRI's initiative, though belated, is welcome in addressing gaps in understanding.

Tailpiece: Lieutenant General JFR Jacob (Jacob-Farj-Rafael Jacob), an Indian Bhagdadi Jew and Hindu Nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party member was the military mastermind behind the dismemberment of unnatural Pakistan entity and liberation of Bangladesh. Lieutenant General Jacob was Chief of Staff of the Indian Army's Eastern Command that vanquished the Pakistani army


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