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Submitted by Debanjan Banerjee (India), Feb 21, 2010 at 03:48

Mr. Grand Infidel,

Mr. Bannerjee, unable to see his viewpoint is only his viewpoint and is not shared globally writes:

My Answer >>> My surname's spelling is Banerjee not Bannerjee. Try to look at my surname's spelling before you type.

Good - but let's stop there and allow me to point something out: your use of Australian vernacular such as 'mate' in order to ingratiate with your audience - is comical coming from an Indian.

My Answer >>> So you do not like any non-white , non-Australian calling you 'mate' . Is that word 'mate' your paternal property ? I can use any word that I would like to use. Understand.

The Taliban were funded by Pakistan's ISI. You make no mention of their role. Why is that?

My Answer >>> Yes, the Taliban was created by ISI. But why did the US not object to it in the first place ? Have you ever heard about something called "Unocal" ? It is an American Oil Company which wanted to do business with the Taliban in the mid 1990-s. And the US govt. were very supportive of that offer.
Actually the US wanted central asian Oil and they thought a stable-Taliban ruled Afghanistan is the best bet in this regard.
Now tell me what is your position behind this piece of History ?

Again - let's deal with facts. The 2006 war was started by Muslim Hezbollah, no doubt acting under orders from allah.".....The conflict began when Hezbollah militants fired rockets at Israeli border towns as a diversion for an anti-tank missile attack on two armored Humvees patrolling the Israeli side of the border fence"

My Answer >>> Well you are sidestepping the question I asked you in the first place. Tell me again was it moral for Bush to give a green light to the Israeli invasion of Lebanon which killed thousands of innocent Lebanese civilians ?

because that is exactly what it is - a myth. Just like your Buraqs

My Answer >>>> What exactly do you see as myth when it comes to the Burqas ?

And I see a country that has excelled itself in all fields of human endeavour in such a short time. Now - let's look at what's happening in other places with much longer civilizations... Egypt, -- not too much happening there - not too many Nobel prizes awarded, lots of people without access to good health and education.... India - another long lasting dynasty - lots of poor people still.....China - some parts doing OK - after copying virtually everything from the West and selling it back to them - on the backs of an inexhaustible supply of cheap labour....

My Answer >>>> When you compare Egypt and India to the US regarding last 200 years you should know that both these countries were under western colonial rule for a significant amount of time in the last 200 years. The resources of these two countries were looted by the Westerners during that time.

Now coming back to the modern times do you really want me to believe that there are no poor people in the US ? Come on do not joke. There are plenty of poor,homeless as well as sick people in the US and you know what ..... their numbers are growing by leaps and bounces.
Now if you believe that there is no poverty,hunger or economic exploitation in the US then I have to say you are living in a fool's paradise.

Talking about Egypt and lack of nobel prizes in the Muslim world , well I tell you what is there to be boasting about Nobel prizes ? People like Henry Kissinger , Bill Clinton and Al Gore have won Nobel prizes whereas some one like Mahatma Gandhi did not receive the Nobel prize. My question to you is the Nobel prize is a thoroughly western concept and Muslims should not care too much about it.

Then I suppose you have issues with the writers of the Koran - who imply that slavery is quite OK.

My Answer >>> The number of slaves that Arabs had was a miniscule compared to the Atlantic Slave trade performed by the westerners. Bye the bye why you forget that some of the first Muslims were African Slaves ? Also one of the major companions of Prophet Mohammad was Bilal the Ethiopian , an African slave who was released from his bondage by Abu Bakr the first Caliph of Islam.

About your website Arabslavetrade.com , I do not find there any useful information opposing my viewpoint. Can you kindly help me in this regard.

Another fact of the matter , Bible also talks about slavery a lot in very favourable terms. Why are you intentionally forgetting it ?
if Hiroshima and Nagasaki had not happened hundreds of thousands , if not millions more Japanese would have died in a war of attrition - fighting to death for their emperor. Has the US used nuclear weapons since that time. Have other countries (including India and Pakistan) created nuclear weapons since that time? If so, are they equally as 'satanic'? And if so - why have they created them? If it is for defence - then you agree that it is OK to have nuclear weapons for defensive purposes - or not?

My Answer >>> Your support of nuclear holocaust of the Japanese is racist. You support it since you consider that Japanese are sub-humans who can be disposed off . Remember what one US general said at the time of nuking Japan : "If to save the life of one American , I have to kill one million Japanese , I will go for it." Your views seem to be in line of it.

But being a muslim - don't you dislike secular governments? Aren't you happy that an 'Islamic' government ended up in its place? If not, why not? Are you saying you DON'T prefer sharia to be instituted ?

My Answer >>> The point here is not that Mossadeq government was secular . The point is do you support the interference of the US in the domestic political situation of another sovereign country ? If you do support it then I would say Muslims will be justified in interfering in the internal affairs of US , Israel and Australia et al.

US participation was at the request of the Vietnamese government

My Answer >>> Another blatant lie of yours. The South Vietnamese government was a US puppet regime which was imposed upon the people of south Vietnam. The Vietcong were justified in taking up arms against that puppet regime so as to unite their country and free Vietnam from the scourge that is Western imperialism.

I said "...., backing the brutal dictatorships in the Muslim world "

You said "Such as where - Iran? Pakistan? Egypt? Indonesia?"

My Answer >>> All the places that you mentioned has or had a pro-US , anti-freedom dictatorship. Example the Brutal Shah regime in Iran , the recurrent military dictatorships in Pakistan , the corrupt Suharto regime in Indonesia and the current tyrannical Mubarak regime in Egypt are / were backed to the hilt by the US.

".........as well as throughout the rest of the world"

such as ?

My Answer >>> The democratically elected Allende regime in Chile was toppled by the pro-US Pinochet regime which was a military dictatorship. The US repeatedly backed non-democratic regimes in South America like the Contras in Nicaragua , as well as the ones in Honduras and Guatemala and Venezuela. The US backed the regime of Mobutu Sese Seko in Zaire. The Ronald Reagan regime even backed the Apartheid regime in South Africa for a time. Even now the US supports anti-freedom governments in the Muslim world such as the ones in Saudi Arabia,Egypt,Kuwait and Jordan. I hope this is enough for you.

Guantanamo bay is not a brutal dictatorship. It is a US military prison for enemy combatants - i.e. people who were trying to kill or killed US and/or other troops.

My Answer >>> My first question to you is that what role those US troops were playing in the first place in the Muslim world ? You cannot blame the Muslims in trying to defend themselves from their US occupiers in places like Iraq or Afghanistan. Now the question is even if we do consider that the Muslims who are imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay are bad people what right do the US have in preventing a proper civilian trial to these people ? Do you think it is democratic for a country like the US which claims to be democratic.

How about countries and religious fanatics instituting and wanting to institute a retarded politico/religious system with draconian punishments for what they consider to be crimes ?

My Answer >>> Exactly. Countries like the US and Israel which have been built on retarded religious supremacist ideas like American exceptionalism in case of the US and Zionism in case of Israel produce the dangerous situations that we now do find in the world. These two countries are mostly responsible for the unjust and oppressive global system that we see today in the world.

Indeed nothing. Some people in any country are going to hate the US. BUt some people in any country are also going to hate India, China - etc etc Most British people do not 'hate' the US at all - neither do most French people. Or most Germans. You should get out more - maybe travel to the lands of these Infidels and see what they really think. In fact - if you asked the general question in a survey in any European country - which do you dislike more - the US - or the Muslim world in general - guess what the answer would be?

My Answer >>> You are wrong again. Whenever there is a poll done in the countries like Britain and France we see that the US and Israel tops the "list of most dangerous countries in the world". I wonder whether you have taken these into account when you say Europeans are pro-US. I also would like to request you to visit places like Bradford in the UK or the suburbs of France and then ask them whom they like most the US or the Islamic world .

As I said - in the US - populations of citizens deriving from ex USSR states including Russia itself. Religion - Russian Orthodoxy is very similar to Roman Catholicism. Race - most Russians are white Europeans. And now they are having capitalism in common.

My Answer >>> Well in the US there are a lot of Americans who are from Muslim background also. Do you believe then that the Muslim world and the US also have lots of things in common.

On the question of similarities between Roman Catholics and Russian Orthodox I think you do not know anything about Christian religion. If these two religions had lots of things in common then why they did not melt together in the last 100 years ? Another point on Russians being white Europeans I guess as a WASP (White Anglo Saxon Protestant) you should also understand that Chechens are also White Europeans. Does that mean that Chechens are also closely related to the Americans ?

Talking about Capitalism , well guess what a lot of Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia , Indonesia , Malaysia and Pakistan do follow capitalism also. I wonder what do you say on that. Does that make them similar to the Americans ?

Blood is thicker than water - and people certainly do care about the past. That's why there are yearly commemorations by Europeans of the their liberation 65 years ago of another totalitarian system - which was brought about help of Americans.

My Answer >>> Blood also leads to violence between blood brothers. Do not forget Europeans have fighting between themselves for so long. And you know what European population of World War II are getting lesser and lesser. If things go on like that not many people in Europe will remember what the US did for them during the WWII.

Talking about WWII you must admit that the Soviets did the bulk of fighting during that war. So should the Europeans not remember them also ?

Sakashvilli is no more my dictator as he is yours. The Russians consider the Balkans their sphere of influece and of course are concerned about new players moving in on their game. Yet most Balkans favour integration - not with Russia - but with the EU.

Why that date - what happened then?

My Answer >>> Talking about 9/11 , that incident actually made US do quite a lot of things like Guantanamo Bay and Abu Gharib which lets the world know that US is not that beacon of freedom it claims. It also tells the world that US is not an exceptional nation like any other empire it also does nasty things to hold onto power.

Being a muslim - you colour your perceptions your own way. Sure the US economy has suffered - but so has every other developed economy - and others such as Russia and even India. If the US economy collapses - which it won't - do not think for a second that the world economy won't suffer the same fate.

My Answer >>> See the Muslim world has seen of empires like the Byzantines , the Persians , the Crussaders , the Mongols as well as the modern European colonists. I tell you what without a total collapse of the current world system there will be no new power coming out. So for a new power to come in a complete collapse of the current world system is necessary.

I think that this insidious Infidel technology - which you are using right now , known as the Internet - is doing a wonderful job of spreading the real facts about Islam far and wide. So is television. Nightly we get to hear of atrocities committed by the confused followers of the Arabian 'religion' - bent on spreading their retarded totalitarian religio/political madness worldwide. It is becoming impossible for Islam to ignore what everyone else sees quite clearly.

My Answer >>> Internet also helps in other ways like helping the world to know and understand the evil deeds of America and spread opposition to this unjust American system like wildfire.
Tell you what the world with each passing day is coming to know about American atrocities all around the world and people are starting to organize against it.


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