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Islamic apologia by Encyclopedia of Orient
Reader comment on item: A Modern-day Mock Devshirme

Submitted by Vijay (United Kingdom), Jun 16, 2006 at 05:27

The cyclopedia says: "It was at all times clear that devsirme was contradictory to Muslim law, Sharia."

This is just non-sense. Mohammed and other early Muslims owned slaves and Koran assumes the permanant existence of slavery. Slavery has been practiced without break from the time of Mohammed to now. If slavery had been "abolished" by Sharia, how come it has been thriving in Islamic societies unabated?

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=4686

http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2005/08/slaves-by-grace-of-god.php

http://www.christianaction.org.za/articles_ca/2004-4-TheScourgeofSlavery.htm

"While the mortality rate for slaves being transported across the Atlantic was as high as 10%, the percentage of slaves dying in transit in the Trans Sahara and East African slave trade was between 80 and 90%!"

Even in American school text books, islamic slavery is whitewashed, stupidly assuming if you don't talk about it, it won't happen.


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Daniel Pipes replies:

No, it is not nonsense. The Shari`a permits enslavement only in Dar al-Harb, not Dar al-Islam, where Muslims rule.

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Offended by a cartoon ?... or... Offended by the abuse of [y]our children ? [54 words]Rochelle MichaelsApr 23, 2008 09:32
What did you expect ! [90 words]dfwhite18438Apr 23, 2008 02:00
What faith is this [61 words]LynnApr 22, 2008 10:35
Pakistan's Mock Devshirme [119 words]BobJul 1, 2006 23:18
Slavery allowed in Koran
[w/response] [165 words]
MargaretJun 18, 2006 10:32
Not mere slavery... [18 words]Kevin MJun 17, 2006 09:28
Slavery is widespread [248 words]Abdul Rahman ReijerinkJun 17, 2006 06:10
Pakistan's Mock Devshirme [119 words]steven LJun 16, 2006 17:09
Further on Devshirmes [139 words]Ali KoknarJun 16, 2006 14:47
Further on Devshirmes [62 words]T H LaneJun 16, 2006 23:50
Pakistan's Mock Devshirme [151 words]Jack BergerJun 16, 2006 13:14
⇒ Islamic apologia by Encyclopedia of Orient
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VijayJun 16, 2006 05:27
Concept of slavery was different in Islam from what we understand today [618 words]BilalJun 17, 2006 15:39
Yes, it was much worse [45 words]Alain Jean-MairetJun 18, 2006 01:06

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