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Thanks for squarely blaming the Islamic doctrine

Reader comment on item: Why Palestinian Delusions Persist

Submitted by Prashant, Nov 13, 2017 at 23:26

Dear Dr Pipes,

I thank you for squarely blaming Islamic doctrine as one of the causes behind the Palestinian delusion that Israel has won the war. Unless we directly question objectionable parts of Islam, Islam will not change and we will all suffer. Indeed, assuming that any piece of land that a rogue Muslim marauder won becomes Islamic for ever is wrong and delusional. No land can belong to a religion for ever. Obviously.

But we should not stop there. Islamic doctrine is not only wrong about the future, it is also wrong about the present. The lands that are currently under Islamic control, even they should not belong to Islam the religion. They ought to be secular lands. Let me repeat. The lands under Islamic control currently should not be Islamic even today. Why? For at least two reasons. First, Muslims travel to non-Muslim countries. When they are in the non-Muslim countries of the world they love and demand democracy and democratic rights for themselves. So it follows that when non-Muslims visit lands controlled by Muslims, they should get the same democracy that Muslims love the world over. Can there be any doubt about it?

The second reason is even more profound. Should a Muslim born and brought up in an Islamic country, decide to change his religion, there is no reason why he should instantly become a second class citizen in the land where he was born.Apply it to, say, an Iranian in Tehran. If in his dream Jesus instructs him to become a Christian and he decides to do so, there is absolutely no reason why he should become a second class citizen. So Iran should not be a Muslim country. No country should be a Muslim country.

Separation of church of state is the correct doctrine and Islamic doctrine is wrong.


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