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Fish and company smell in three days

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Submitted by Michael S (United States), Aug 24, 2015 at 19:49

Hi, Waz. Some things you said...

One wonders why the same thing is not occuring in non-white countries.

I'm sure you're being facetious. Of course, most countries that have anything to offer economically are mostly white. The exception is in East Asia, where Hong Kong and Japan also receive immigrants. Africa, Mexico, South Asia and the Middle East are economic nightmares; and in the latter case, this is exacerbated by the endemic wars.

Hard to reconcile that with her being Catholic.

To be specific, my Mom was saying that it is better to kill a fetus than to have it live to birth and be unwanted. That's the sort of line she heard continually on the news, in one form or another. Catholics don't check in their brains to the Pope when they're baptized, and American Catholics generally feel free to live and think whatever they want. My sisters, on the other hand, are all opposed to abortion -- which surprized my mother when she found out.

That makes sense.. and explains why you never hear of an agoraphobic's convention.

LOL. Yeah, I think I was attracted to Australia because it has plenty of open space.

Not to , German, Belgian or Irish. Genetically though pockets of Wales and England still retain their pre-Roman and pre-Angle, Jute, Saxon celtic roots.

Yes, pockets -- specifically, in Wales, Cornwall and Ireland. England and Scotland have virtually identical DNA to northern Germany, Scandinavia, etc. As for Belgium, that's where the British Celts came from. Brits tend to have unhealthy-looking teeth and underbites; other than that, I don't know how they stand out. Most people in Western Europe, from Portugal to Scandinavia, have Rib rDNA and H mtDNA, and a high degree of overlap in their autosomal DNA. The Jews, by contrast, have about four major types of both male and female DNA -- and in this, they aren't unique among Middle Eastern people. As the Black cometian said, "White people all look the same to me."

You get Vietnamese Australians born here , growing up in the western suburbs with the broadest Australian accents and mannerisms.

People in suburbs all over the world tend to live more like one another, than like their countrymen in the country and inner cities. When I lived in Australia, Marrickville had a unique character; but Bankstown was more like the US.

It's not a matter of cultural relativism . By almost any measure, muslim/arab culture is inherently backward and regressive. If you're talking abou physical appearance - then why the hankering of arabs for European women?

Sometimes opposites attract. Salma Hayek is not bad looking. I wasn't talking about physical appearance, though. Arabs tend to have close families and close communities, whereas Western marriages and families have a way of flying apart at the seams. I'd say that's a plus for the Arabs. Once you get to know Arabs, moreover, they have a gift of hospitality that's hard to beat. As for Westerners, I don't count it as a cultural "positive:, that most young people here don't even know how to talk to people without resorting to a hand-held device.

That said, of course, I fit in pretty well with Westerners, because I am used to them.

People with a superior technlogy meet people with inferior technologies - and they win.

Before 1760, the whole state of Vermont was populated by only a few hundred Abenaki Indians, who lived in small villages in the northwest. The rest of the state was hunting and fishing ground. When the British opened the state up to European settlement, that hunting and fishing ground was turned into farmland that supported thousands of colonists. Likewise, when Daniel Boone first let hunting parties into the North Carolina frontier, American Bison roamed the land. They were all hunted out with superior European weapons, and the natives had to move across the Ohio River. Hunter-gatherer societies simply require too much pristine land to support them.

As for clothing, Mary Jemison was a white woman who was abducted as a teenager and lived among the Senecas an Delawares. She considered the lives of Indian women to be better than that of White women, because they didn't have to spend so much time and work spinning, weaving and sewing. Whe game became scarce, though, the Indians had to sell lands to the whites in exchange for blankets. White mountain men, on the other hand, like Daniel Boone, and like the Lewish & Clark Voyage of Discovery, work Indian-style buckskin. There were no KMarts on the Upper Missouri in those days.

Hopefully some of them availed themselves of the conditions and had better hygiene than their immediate forebears.

Generally not. They stank to high heaven. They were sewed into their underwear in the Fall, and took the stitching out in the Spring. In the Northeast US, it seldom rains in the winter; it snows or gets bitterly cold, and people spend a lot of time indoors. There's a term called "cabin fever", to describe those times. Also, Benjamin Franklin coined the expression,

Fish and company smell in three days.

He was being genreous.


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The world's leaders are all acting against their own interests. Has God made them made, in order to destroy them? [791 words]Michael SJul 15, 2015 16:19224228
Pluses and minuses [114 words]AnonJul 19, 2015 01:55224228
clarifies some of the reasons.... [9 words]Mohammed Waza Khiddif Id'ullahJul 21, 2015 00:37224228
Obama has an agenda, but it isn't Muslim [1303 words]Michael SAug 1, 2015 19:18224228
A major region for Middle East rivalries, and for Israel's paramount importance to the people of the world [578 words]Michael SAug 4, 2015 02:29224228
cultural divides. [536 words]Mohammed Waza Khiddif Id'ullahAug 7, 2015 06:21224228
1Of bear grease, and other smells [1927 words]Michael SAug 11, 2015 16:50224228
comments on comments [736 words]Mohammed Waza Khiddif Id'ullahAug 22, 2015 08:40224228
3The Gnostics and their great gift: knowledge [71 words]Dhimmi no moreAug 24, 2015 13:36224228
Fish and company smell in three days [855 words]Michael SAug 24, 2015 19:49224228
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p.s. [28 words]Mohammed Waza Khiddif Id'ullahAug 30, 2015 06:59224228
I can't tell a German from an Italian. Also, it's the media who seem "wretched and bizarre" [439 words]Michael SSep 1, 2015 16:13224228
accents query [274 words]Mohammed Waza Khiddif Id'ullahSep 7, 2015 23:31224228
American eye reporting. [305 words]Michael SSep 12, 2015 03:42224228
keine Garantien [71 words]Mohammed Waza Khiddif Id'ullahSep 15, 2015 03:46224228
US-Australian ties [398 words]Michael SSep 18, 2015 04:31224228
The Iran treaty may have done Israel's work for them [396 words]MIchael SNov 13, 2015 08:22224228

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