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Submitted by tommy (Australia), Sep 12, 2014 at 05:43

I take issue with the statement: "the vast majority of Muslims are against Sharia law and the imposition of a Muslim state." ... Egypt attests to this, the failure of the Arab Spring attests to this, and the REAL polls indicate this. And these are the ones who are honest, there would be large percentage particularly in the West who would not. So factor that in.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/opinion-polls.htm

I once worked with an Indian Muslim in 2001 just around the time of Sept 11. Before that event happened I had a CIVIL discussion about Islam with him. This individual was well groomed, well educated and highly proficient at his job. In his soft spoken style he explained to me how he believed in the stoning to death of adulterers, the cutting of hands of thieves etc. He was obviously a true believer in Sharia Law. This from an otherwise pleasant individual, refined and well educated. And remember those guys who flew the planes into the buildings were engineers, tertiary educated and the current head of that terror organization is an eye surgeon.

And consider that due to the regressive nature of Islam the majority of Muslims are poorly educated. In fact there is a contempt of education by the religiousness elite who control all in a true Muslim state, as it encourages free thinking and criticism of Sharia law.

This is the true face of Islam, the true moderates are an aberration. That is why there will never be a TRUE democracy in the Middle- East, that is why Hindus and Buddhists integrate well in Europe and the Muslims do not. And that is why there are no major protests against Muslim terrorists in Muslims communities. They really believe in the CENTRAL aspiration of the terrorists, that is to bring Sharia law to all.

Sharia Law is incompatible with integration, based on the the correct and pure interpretation of this law ( not some lying model given by deceitful BS artists to dopey westerners, THEY ARE PLAYING A GAME, IN ISLAM IT IS OK TO LIE, IF YOU DECEIVE THE ENEMIES OF ISLAM),

There can be no compromise, no other conflicting belief systems, THE ONLY WAT TO PREVENT THIS NATURAL PROGRESSION TO SHARIA LAW IN MUSLIM STATES BY THE MASSES, IS BY A DICTATORSHIP OR A QUASI DICTATORSHIP. Turkey is not really a democracy neither is Malaysia or Indonesia. And those are the most tolerant Muslims states.

Your dopey Western leaders have no idea.

Now observe the Middle East OBJECTIVELY, note how tolerant Muslims are of others and has free thinking really survived in that region, in fact there are hardly any Christians left in these regions, there used to be millions.

(Historian John Philip Jenkins writes, 'As late as the eleventh century, Asia was still home to at least a third of the world's Christians and perhaps a tenth of all Christians lived in Africa. What happened to this thriving, intellectually vibrant Christianity? It was virtually wiped out by violent Islamic persecution, especially during the fourteenth century, due to ethnic and religious cleansing.' Islam became known as 'the religion of the sword,' and for good reason.)

Note how well they integrate and live with others in other lands from Asia to Europe.

True Islam was once for a brief period a progressive culture, but that died out and the predominant form of Islam, and Islam for the last 800 years has been regressive and oppressive, this is it natural dominant form that has evolved. And the relevant form.

The dominant form of Islamic preaching is based on Muhammad's Medina teachings not his Mecca (more peaceful) teachings.In Mecca the faith was just beginning and he was outnumbered by non-believers, it was wise to be more tolerant. However by the time of Medina he was the dominant force, and his preaching became far more darker. Like the new testament has predominance over the old testament, since they are later version (Medina) are perceived to be the MOST CORRECT instruction. These verses or instructions are aggressive and intolerant.

An honest and objective analysis cannot fail to see the REAL truth about ISLAM. From now on every time I hear a twit say: "THIS IS NOT TRUE ISLAM" I am going to change the channel. I am sick of this rubbish.

The very fact that there are 1.6 billion of them does not change the facts.

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It's not clear where the statement the vast majority of Muslims are against Sharia law and the imposition of a Muslim state" comes from but it does not come from me.

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