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Sadly We Cannot Teach What Is Considered Islamic By The True Believers

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Submitted by GWK (United States), Sep 11, 2014 at 15:14

Everyone should take an unbiased history class in the history of the Middle East. That's hard, however, since all universities hire shills who are propagandists for Islam rather than dispassionate historiens. So here's the way to understand the history. 1. Discover who Mohammed was. A young orphan who married the wealthiest widow in Makka, 20 years his senior, and then led caravans across the world in the late 6th century. A young man who turned on his caravan brothers after his matron died, slaughtered and married those caravan partners he worked with who did not accept his new theology, and began a booty-funded series of raids and plunder, taking the best of the best for himself. Then a warrior philopspher spiritual leader who married an 8 year old and took umbrage at the Jews of Medina who had first offered him refuge in their community from those who challenegd him. 2. Understand the history of "Islamic" truces. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Hudaybiyyah 3. Understand the Ridda Wars (or Islam's "Wars of Apostasy" http://sites.middlebury.edu/mahripoetry/history-of-the-mahra/history/pre-islamic-period-and-the-ridda-wars-632-633-ce/) In this era, free thought was cruelly supressed and Abu Bakr's army annihilated all those on the "Holy Peninsula" who defied his rule and the "purity" of his rule. 4. Read all you can about Khalid bin Waleed (start here: http://www.islam-watch.org/authors/59-kammuna/1510-khalid-bin-waleed--the-sword-of-islam.html). An enormously accomplished military genius few Westerners ever heard of. For years the Byzantine Empire sparred with the Persian Empire until Khalid defeated both the Byzantine (Eastern Roman) in Syria and Persia's Prince Hormuz in the Gulf. 5. At this point, the history of Islam becomes less one of treachery and beheadings and thought control and it moves toward an era of consolidation ... that is until it began expanding across the Mahgreb and into Spain and France. http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/conqspain.asp.

The history can be sanitized by Muslim professors hoping to "teach" Westerners in the beauty of the religion, but the rise and purification and expansion of Islam by violence cannot be thoroughly hidden.

6. The next chapters of Islam would focus with it's continual struggle against the Byzantine Empire in the Eastern Mediteranean Sea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab%E2%80%93Byzantine_wars) and with the rise of the Al Mohads who reverted abck to conservative orthodoxy in Spain, suppressing what had once been a liberal co-existence with others on that Penisnula. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0001_0_00857.html

7. Then look to the advancement of Islamic ethics which promote dishonesty through the practices of Kitman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitman) and Taqiyya (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya) (See also: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm).

Bottom line: 356 years after the 1648 Treaty of Westphalia, Westerners are unused to a portion of their population being willing to die and commit atrocities for their religion. But Westerners are not aware of their own history nevertheless the history of Islam. For over 1,000 years, the populations of the West and the Muslim World had been in conflict. While the West stopped Timur (Tamerlane)'s advance on Europe in Poland in the 14th C. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Horde) and defeated the Ottoman Siege of Vienna in 1683 (http://www.historytoday.com/walter-leitsch/1683-siege-vienna), Suleyman's conquest of the Balkans (1521-1541) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suleiman_the_Magnificent#Conquests_in_Europe) still echoes in Europe's now deaf ears

A recent article about Tamerlans here (http://www.havokjournal.com/world/tamerlane-a-lesson-from-the-first-man-of-iron) opines that the cruelty of Islam persists and that the radicals' lionization of cruel and inhumane practices persists. Bottom line: the West had better open its eyes to the soft shoe whitewashing of the jihadi threat and must do what it can to compare and contrast the West's benevolence and liberalism versus the heinous and illiberal values of the Salafist's inciting conflict and mayhem.

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