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Submitted by Alexandros (United Kingdom), May 20, 2014 at 18:10

I would have to say that the article ... unavoidably leads to wrong conclusions. In my opinion the turning point of Islamism is irrelevant to the 9/11 tragic incident.

Islamism hasn't changed at all actually and the only thing that has happened is that fanatic Islamists have gained power! Before and after 9/11 and still, there are very strong terroristic organisations, before and now not all Muslims are terrorists and of course that assumption you had made back then, that every Muslim is a potential killer, was completely wrong!

What has changed though is that the Islamists have gained power in all Muslim countries and especially Pakistan, Turkey, Egypt and Libya! What they have done is to abuse democracy and it's meaning so to excuse their attrocious actions, that led them into power!

Islam and Islamists represent a political organisation and not a religion, this has not changed and it is unlikely to change unless Muslims start to consider Saria as a relic, something not likely to happen.

Islamists have proceeded in the national cleansing or genocide of the Christians in the Middle East and they have made a dictator to look like a saint...

All those "democratic" Islamists represent another harsh authoritarian regime, similar to that in Saudi Arabia, their difference is that they abusingly use a ballot box. The problem is that voting is not equal to democracy, there is a ballot box in North Korea as well...

As for Gulen, i have to remind to you, that he has stated that his goal is Muslims to conquer Europe and implement Saria!

I am sure that he desperatrly wants to take power in Turkey and continue with his plans, but don't expect him to be any deifferent than Erdogan. Islamic goal is one and can't become any different and that is ultimate hegemony...that's what the prophet said...

The only solution would be for Muslims to transform Islam into a religion, a true religion, that dictates a moral code, without considering non-Muslims as lower people, but doesn't dictate the state law!

Equality among people can't be negotiated! If they don't apologise for their crimes and compensate the victims, how do you hope for any change?


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