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in response to reader comment: Jesus said " If you go to a person and they refuse the wisdom you give them, shake the dust off and leave"

Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan (Australia), Apr 11, 2012 at 07:40

I see Mr Abdullah in opening with ' If you go to a person and they refuse the wisdom you give them, shake the dust off and leave" is paraphrasing Mark 6:11 from the New Testament. Is this a way of using Christian scripture - to warn readers who disregard his wonderful islamic wisdom that he will end further communication? When he has not yet once explained why his beliefs and superstitions are superior to any others nor shown readers examples of first world sharia compliant theocracies.

It is amazing how Mr Abdullah keeps quoting from a corrupted book. I'm curious as to who decides for Mr Abdullah which bits are corrupted - is it some mullah or imam? Or does he just discard anything which does not fit into his holy islamic thoughts and current world view.

Just a little further along in Mark 6:47 for example - we have an account of this astonishing event : " When it was evening, the boat was in the middle of the sea, and He was alone on the land. 48Seeing them straining at the oars, for the wind was against them, at about the fourth watch of the night He came to them, walking on the sea; and He intended to pass by them. 49But when they saw Him walking on the sea, they supposed that it was a ghost, and cried out; 50for they all saw Him and were terrified. But immediately He spoke with them and said to them, "Take courage; it is I, do not be afraid." 51Then He got into the boat with them, and the wind stopped; and they were utterly astonished, 52for they had not gained any insight from the incident of the loaves, but their heart was hardened."

You would have to say that even this one single event by a fully realised being outshines anything in Islamic scriptures (oh, of course excepting the tale of the splitting of the moon by Mo - which was never recorded anywhere else on earth) .

So - does Mr Abdullah leave out this event and say it is an example of the corruption muslims see in non-muslkim scriptures? Where can we find a muslim version of the New Testament - with all the corruption taken out? Why has it not been published? So frustrating!

Perhaps that could be lifetime task for biblical scholars like Mr Abdullah? Think of how pleased Allah would be with you , Mr Abdullah - if you could revise the Bible so that all the errors that Muslims see were taken out? You could possibly single handedly be responsible for hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of supplicants suddenly lining up to bow and scrape at the mosques around the western world on Fridays. You would be instrumental in telling them that the child-marrying, 11 wived, burak riding bedouin caravan raider was THE guy to be following . Well, following their imagination of that person anyway..

The same person who NEVER taught human beings that the 'kingdoim of God' (light, love, awareness etc) was inside them as Jesus did. Never taught his followers to still the mind and extricate their mind's awareness from the sense world to reach nirvana.as Buddha did.

Just think how grateful all those people would be - when they'd start facing Mecca five times a day, got to shaving their pubic hair, remembered to be stepping into a toilet with the left foot and exiting it with the right (or vice versa ? watch out for the Jinns don't forget) , started taking Hajj trips and throwing rocks at a pillar thinking it will actually lead to some sort of enlightenment. I haven't even mentioned such great achievemnets as getting them to accept sharia - and getting them to throw away democracy so they can be led by people who actually know what Allah wants such as imams etc. And of course - getting them to learn at least some Arabic - the perfect language which was spoken by that perfect man - Mo. And burkah sales would go through the roof!

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he part about Muslims beheading and such and all of the other ignorance you said.

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Yes, I was including ALL the other ignorant behaviours that Muslims perform in slavish obedience to their cult's beliefs - and you think that is not true and done routinely?

"Christians have done more evil to the human race than any other religion on the planet. including all of the things you said of Muslims. "

Yours is a spurious argument Mr Abdullah - a little reflection and honesty should show you that. Hitler - and even Iosif Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili - both causes of incalculable suffering of millions of other Christians and Jews ( - but note - hardly any muslims - so why the crocodile tears?) - were products of Christian societies. Does that make them 'Christian'? Stalin had brown eyes. Mr Abdullah most likely has brown eyes - is Mr Abdullah then possibly a megalomaniacal mass-murderer as well.

Millions died in WW2 - but if millions of Christians had NOT sacrificed their time and in millions of cases - their lives fighting fascist , totalitarian ideologies and had simply let Nazism overtake their societies - who knows how many muslims would be left alive today to complain about things?

Christians and those from Judeo-Christian societies have brought enormous advances in medicine, science and technology to relieve suffering - all around the world.

".....There is no nation on the planet earth that have not been free of your evil you have raped, killed more people than anyone "

Who is 'you'? The Russians, Germans, English, French, people with blue eyes, people with brown eyes? Who exactly?

"...under the false name of god that you worship. ..."

what 'false name' of God is this ? In fact which God ? The sea of pure bliss spoken of by mystics down through the ages , the ground of being and infinite potentiality that exists behind and beyond the quantum world? Or the Bronze Age warmongering desert deity who seems to have a real aversion to Jews and dislikes Christians - and must be positively revolted by those polytheistic Hindus?


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4tide of islamophobia ? [176 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanApr 3, 2012 22:41194940
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4easy to spot [861 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanApr 3, 2012 07:52194810
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4which one? [1039 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanApr 11, 2012 07:40194810
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3what's the problem again? [855 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanApr 13, 2012 22:46194810
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3getting rather tedious [2031 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanApr 18, 2012 22:41194810
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3No parallel between killing by Christians and killing in the name of Islam [109 words]PrashantApr 21, 2012 17:38194802

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