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Submitted by faqi (United States), Mar 8, 2007 at 17:16

Mr. Campbell, The article below was my response last year to another person who had similar views as you. I am sorry to say this, but its the truth. Its not a few who have hijacked the faith, all others support the few openly or secretly; there is ample proof of that by the ample funding the few seem to get from the moderates.

You may have seen the UK Ch 4 documentaries done last month, there was not a single 'moderate' muslim objection or condemnation to what was being preached at many of the Masjids in the UK. The Moderates were all complicitly seated listening to all the hatred being preached. There is enough proof of their hidden agenda. Remember the cartoon protests and so on last year. I am sorry to say, I have to disagree with Dr. Pipes too ,about the so called moderate Muslims.

There is a conference going on in Florida right now this week by ex Muslims & moderate muslims, it has been condemned by the so called moderate muslims all over the world. Read Muslim web sites. The non- Muslim world is in a stupor denying the reality of Islam and its ruthless violence being inflicted all over the world ever since it was born. All the experts, political leaders, the main-stream-media are always busy trying to find the cause of Muslim violence all over except the root cause of it all - the Quran. So long as these people keep finding alibis for the Muslim behavior, the problem will never get solved.
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There is a creative solution regarding muslims living in the west. Its tough one. Its for the survival of Western culture and the civilized, democratic/secular way of life as we know it.

All Western countries should take away the status of Islam as a religion. Educate all western non-muslims about Islam's barbaric/heinous teaching contained in the Quran. Once Western masses learn more and more about Islam and able to understand the unspoken hidden messages and the hidden agenda of Islamic teaching, only then there will be full public support for drastic action.

Muslims are beyond teaching. Its a utter waste of time trying to re-program, re-educate Muslims. ... (remember 9/11. 7/7 , Madrid,Bombay,Beslan, Moscow, Bali etc. all atrocities perpetrated by muslims living amongst us some born here, who have been exposed to a secular/democratic way of life from birth )

Qur'an 8:67 "It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land."

Qur'an 8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."

Provide special protection to Ex-Muslims (apostates) from Islamist's threats; the western governments should have a protection program ( like for ex Mafia members- witness protection program ). Get the of Ex-Muslims to expose what an evil ideology Islam is all about and their eventual goal in the west.

Require all Muslims living in the west be registered so that they could be tracked, as is done of foreigners in Saudi Arabia etc.
At the moment it appears that only the US can fight the Muslims. Europe is no longer defendable.

Muslims, in all the Islamic countries of the world have produced nothing of value except strife, poverty, illiteracy, over population, hatred, killing, depriving non-muslims and women of basic human rights etc., the list goes on. Nothing of value or any good has come out of Muslim majority nations in the last hundreds of years (even in countries where your so called moderate muslims live).

Their minds are so controlled, that they cannot see or comprehend this situation, It does not occur to them that their belief system and the Quran is to blame for this state of affairs.

We all agree that Islam is the fastest growing religion among convicts, misfits , in prisons all over the world. Between 10 to 20% of prison inmates in Western nation prison populations are islamic converts. Why? Because Islam is naturally very attractive to the rejects of the world, especially men with low intellect, as it promises them a "win win" offer - Convert to Islam and all former sins are forgiven immediately, no need of repentance. Kill in the name of Allah/Islam and be rewarded with lusty promiscuous life in the hereafter - a sensual paradise, or be killed in the name of Allah/Islam and the same sensual reward awaits them, so what has one with a criminal mind to lose.

Apparently the following quranic guarantees of instant paradise with gorgeous virgins with swelling breasts (78.33: damsels with swelling breasts, their peers in age) for their martyrdom has something to do with their laying their lives:

Qur'an:3:169 "Think not of those who are slain in Allah's Cause as dead. Nay, they live, finding their provision from their Lord. Jubilant in the bounty provided by Allah:

Qur'an:3:156 "If you are slain, or die, in Allah's Cause [as a martyr], pardon from Allah and mercy are far better than all they could amass."

They all Blame the West, conspiracy theories abound, the blame game goes on. Its Western foreign policy,Christianity (Crusaders), democracy, support of liberal leaders, stealing oil, excuses are rampant among all Muslims. But they never see beyond their noses, that its Islam and its teaching that is keeping them from improving their lives.

They all hate the West, but still keep creeping into western countries by hook or by crook. 90% of asylum seekers coming in to the western countries are Muslims - but yet they hate the west and the life style....


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