Michel, go back to your circus!
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Submitted by Noah Wilk (United States), Feb 23, 2007 at 22:22
Michel, I have said it before and I will say it again. You're a clown. Go back to your circus and stop pretending you have analytical or research skills. You waste our time. Once again I am forced to take you to the toolshed for a quick paddling.
"Neither in Immigration nor population growth are Muslims leading, but Hispanics, mainly of Christian belief, lead by a distance. (USA specific)"
If you bothered to read my original posts on the matter, you would realize that nowhere did I ever claim that Muslims were leading the immigration explosion. You're trying to shoot down an argument that I never made, and your argument is irrelevant to my claim in any case. Muslims do not need to be the #1 source of immigration in order to be conducting a migratory attack. In fact, that would only serve to draw attention and would thus be counter-productive to their subversive schemes.
Case in point...the Muslim take-over of Detroit, Michigan:
As you can see, they are transforming the city into an Islamic center, and forcing their "call to prayer" onto the non-Muslim community, day and night. They already have 33 moques in Detroit and are planning on building others. They have also been trying to institute Sharia law courts in Detroit to deal with Muslims.
This is not the only city where this is happening.
As I have repeatedly told you before, Michel...you are simply not intelligent enough to debate this with the resf of us. Go back to circus clowning or whatever it is you really do. You clearly are coming to a gunfight unarmed, handcuffed, and blindfolded.
""Migratory attack" , at least here in the USA by Muslims is hence and in fact inexistent."
First, Michel, the word is "non-existent", not "inexistent". Second, you disproved nothing, because the migratory attack is being documented, and as I have pointed out, the Muslims need not be the largest segment of immigration in order to be conducting such an attack. Detroit is a city of 4-5 million people (depending on whether you include the suburbs or just the city itself), with an estimate of 120,000 to 200,000 Muslims. That's just roughly 3% of the population being Muslim, and look at how they are transforming the city.
Reality, Michel. Learn to deal with it instead of being a clown.
"Current trends and projections considered, America will not see Sharia Law, but most likely soon have to formally legislate Spanish as official second language."
40% of Muslim youths in Britain want Sharia law. In Ontario, Canada, back as far as 2003, the government established Sharia court for Muslims living in Canada. Cases were to be decided by a Muslim arbitrator. Several years ago, Omar Ahmad, then chairman of CAIR (the largest Islamic organization in America) said, and I quote:
"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith but to become dominant."
He also declared that Muslims in America should achieve that goal by opening Islamic schools and mosque, and by gaining economic power.
In Michigan they elected a Muslim (Kieth Ellison) as a Congressman. He belongs to radical, terrorist loving Islamic groups, he swore in on the Koran, and he refused to answer whether he would obey the Constitution of the United States over the Koran if he had to choose between the two. I noticed that he managed to rally 3,000 Muslims, who chanted "Allahu akbar" and cheered his calls to spread the cult of Islam in the United States. Funny how when they create rallies for peace and to denounce terror, they only manage to generate a couple of token Muslims, nowhere near 300, much less 3,000.
Here's another slap-in-the-face wake up call, Michel...the truth about CAIR, the largest Muslim organization in America:
Intelligent, empowered people see this and understand what's happening. Kumbayah-singing, ignorant New Age Bliss Bunnies deny reality because it frightens them. We know which you are, Michel.
"As far as the US is concerned, published statistics (US Census bureau and other reputable institutions) proove our doomsday people 100% wrong."
Actually, al that's being proven here is that you don't know what you're talking about, that you don't know how to do research, and that you don't have the brains to properly refute even a simple argument. Like I said, you're a clown.
" I am very interested to learn, how that solid data is going to be dismissed by Noah, the most outspoken voice of the "migratory attack"."
With well-researched facts, with logic, with a dissection of why your arguments are worthless and prove nothing, as I have done above. Happy?
"Now that we have pragmatically dispensed with the first panic attack,"
Correction, Michel. What we have proven is that you don't know what you're talking about and that you're not intelligent enough to even follow the arguments I present, much less refute them. Before you throw your arm out of whack patting yourself on the back, understand that all your efforts on the matter in this last post of yours simply exposes you as incapable of critical or analytical thought and shows that you do not know what you're talking about.
"can we now rightfully assume that maybe the same voices denying the existance of Moderate Islam are equally wrong, as they were, when warning us of a future USA terrorized by Sharia law?"
No Michel, we cannot. Allow me to school you once more, and keep in mind that if i am forced to continue schooling you I am going to have to start billing you for my services. You clearly do not understand the rules of debate. You made a claim that the majority of Muslims are peace loving, reform minded, and peaceful. The burden of proof of that claim rests squarely on your shoulders. In order to "win" the debate, all I need to is say to you "prove your claim", and when you fail to do so (which you always do), you lose. That's how a debate works.
"Kind of amazing how the whole foundation of the Islamophobes crumbles, when faced with simple facts and numbers, which in addition corrobate, why we have seen so little evidence of the Ugly Muslim."
Michel, wake up now! Time to exit your fantsy dream world and enter the real world. First, we are not Isalamophobes. Second, none of your "facts" have done so much as eroded a single molecule of my claims about migratory attacks by Muslims. As shown above, your arguments not only fail, but are irrelevant and serve no purpose other than to expose your immense ignorance and misunderstanding of the matter. All this has been explained to you before, I might add (ie why we see so little Islamic terror in America). you simply refuse to listen. You are essentially sticking your fingers in your ears and going "Lalalalala...I can't hear you!". But I guess that is all we can expect from you, all things considered.
"Some fanatics undeniably do exist, but there are simply too few of them in the big picture to dent the fabric of our society. So stop the whining and clamoring about Muslims and help promoting improved assimilation and a more homogenuous populus. Help revive our own moral values and we'll be untouchable."
Michel, doesn't it get hard to breath, when your head is buried so deeply...er...in the sand? (I wish I could say what I intended).
"See the big picture and stop wasting yours and our time on blips, as Islam is definitely one of the minor challenges the USA at least faces."
On the contrary Michel, stop wasting our time with your ignorance and lack of perspective. Even a cursory reading of the material reveals your utter lack of understanding of the matter and your absolute lack of qualification to even engage the rest of us on this matter...
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