Thanks for the entertainment, Michel!
Submitted by Noah Wilk (United States), Feb 10, 2007 at 19:49
Well Michel, I owe you one. I had a really tough day to deal with, and when I saw your post it brought a smile to may face and got me laughing. Thanks for the entertainment! :-)
"Seems so easy to poke holes into someone elses cheese, but not come up with anything intelligent, which has a slither of a chance for implementation.. cheap."
Don't feel bad. Just change your tactics then, and start coming up with intelligent arguments. I've been asking you to try that all along!
"Seeing only what's not working, yet failing miserably to come up with something constructive yourself, makes you part of the problem by definition."
Agreed. You are part of the problem. You have failed miserably to come up with anything constructive or in any way linked to reality. We challenged you to do so, and you have refused and failed.
"When I see a link to material in response to one of my posts, I go and read it, get educated, maybe have to adapt. When I deliver some supporting evidence for my position, it is dismissed as nonsense, let alone read or commented."
When a man claims that a dead man is posting video tapes, yes, I dismiss him as uninformed. When a man makes absurd claims, yes, I dismiss them as absurd. It's not my fault you posted links to uninformed, absurd articles.
"Banning, deporting and nuking as an overall strategy is by now an approach, which has been shredded to pieces'
Really? Who's done the shredding? Not you. Not Plato. No one has shredded the argument. All you've done has been to evade it by whining about the Native Americans and atttempt to vilify it by misrpresenting and misquoting my posts and by saying it would "make Hitler proud". Again, it's not my fault you're not intelligent enough to defend your views with reality and factual information.
"But you are unable to understand that with your simple mind - hence why not use another insult instead of conceding the point."
Michel, Michel. You're hurling insults again. See? Every time someone shoots down your absurd and unrealistic arguments, you get snotty, have a tempter tantrum, and storm out of here with a drama queen exit. I suspect that in a few days you'll make a dramatic reappearance and post your apology as always. Yawn. The act is getting old, Michel.
"Moderate Muslims are inexistent, facts and references are simply brushed aside. Best served if accompanied by another insult.. Albeit...Screaming the loudest does not make you right, just more annoying."
Actually, you need to understand that whining the loudest does not invalidate the factual truths posted by your opponent(s). What you refer to as "facts and references" are simply poorly researched links. You do a Google search for "moderate Muslims" and post a link to the first article that agrees with your views, which is not how a competent person does research for debate. You have not provided evidence of any significant movement of Muslims (in America otherwise) who are working for peace and reform. Fact.
"you are a one dimensional, tunnel-visioned fanatic ( if not lunatic meant in a medical sense) with way too much time on your hands, whose ideas fortunately will never make it past this blog."
As usual, when you cannot win, you whine and hurl insults. When whining doesn't work, you cry for censorship. When crying for censorship brings no results, you walk off in a huff, only yo then post a dramatic apology and start the process all over again. Michel, the act is already blown. Time to change tactics.
"Your opinions here, your utter lack of respect and civility during the discussion, deliver a powerful testimony of my above depiction and ironically unmask you as precisely as evil and depraved, as the ugly Muslim you warn us about. Ample proof for that in every one of your posts."
You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. Bu then, that's why you have to resort to whining and insulting.
"On top of that, you seem to be by its purest definiton of the word a coward, who hides behind "freedom of speech" and the anonymity of the internet to attack, slander and insult anyone in the worst manner, who does not share your outrageous ideas."
I already explained that issue to you, Michel. You really need to brush up on your reading comprehension, or at least start paying attention to peoples' replies. And why do you claim this is not my real name? Can you prove that? You can't even get the terminology of your own posts correct. The word you are looking for is libel, not slander. Try cracking open a dictionary now and then. And to address the "slander" claim of yours:
Slander and libel have specific requirements in order to establish their existence.
First, both are invalidated by truth. If I say "Michel is a moron" and Michel has an IQ of 50-69, then I have stated a truth and it cannot be considered libel or slander. If I say you are incapable of backing your arguments with reality and you indeed have not done so, that fails the test for slander or in this case libel.
Second, both are inaplicable if I am merely posting my opinion. And that is precisely what I am doing.
Third, if the statement is a matter of public interest, it is not slander/libel. It is indeed in the public interest to show how inaccurate and inept your posts are, and how they deny reality. Your beliefs are delusional and a danger to the public, as I have proven.
Third, there is the idea of being incapable of further defamation. In other words, if your standing in the community is laughed at to the degree where what I say cannot defame you any further, then your claim of "slander" is irrelevant and inaccurate. And you have indeed made a complete fool of yourself here in this community with your absurd claims, your drama queen exists and dramatic re-entrances, your incessant whining, your lack of understanding even basic concepts, your flip-flopping and your ridiculous chest thumping. Most people here consider you a clown. I can hardly defame you any further.
"I do not even touch on your vocabulary as to Islam and/or Muslims."
Again, you are offended by truth and reality. What kind of man is offended by facts? Islam is indeed a savage, tribal, evil religion. They do indeed worship death...by their own words and admission. Truth offends those who are too weak to deal with it.
"If it wasn;t so sad, I'd dismiss you as some form of error or joke of nature - definitely a reason to promote the woman's right to choose, if you get my drift. ...:-("
As usual, when you realize that you cannot compete intellectually and factually, you resort to tempter tantrums and insults. No doubt your apology will be forthcoming once you realize you've made a fool of yourself yet again. Like I said, been there, done that, got your previous posts as souvenirs.
"Since you are here though, I recommend to get psychiatric help asap (Behavioral science would most likely position you in the neighborhood of a sociopath with manic depressive and compulsive tendencies.)"
ROTFL! So in addition to being a New Age conflict resolution guru who manages Fortune 500 companies in Third World countries, a world-traveller who (in the course of giving those seminars) does his Indianna Jones stint by living among the destitute natives (who all love you!), and a nuclear-biological-chemical warfare expert (even nuclear technicians need group hugs now and then!), you are now also a licensed psychologist!
Amazing! Michel, you're just a jack of all trades, aren't you?
"as this hatred will eventually consume you, or one of these days you really get someone so angry , that he will put you out of your misery."
On the contrary, I am not full of hatred, just realistic. As for someone putting me out of my misery, I have no worries there. It's been tried, but never accomplished.
"If you continue like that, I see such as a distinctive possibility and I encourage you to tone down your propaganda.'
Michel Debate Tactic #37: When you cannot win an argument, label the opponent's factually sound arguments as "propaganda" and "encourage" them to "tone it down". Tactic #38 involves whining to a moderator to force the opponent to "tone it down", no doubt.
"If you were not most likely physically handicapped, probably in a wheel chair, I'd be further afraid of you taking mattters in your own hands... hence....I strongly advise you: get help, before you completely loose it"
Michel, I realize that the idea of an empowered man, unafraid to speak the truth, offends and frightens you. Don't worry, I'll save you from having to deal with reality. No, I am not physically handcapped. I am in fact a martial arts instructor with decades of combat experience in both hand-to-hand combat and warfare. Go back to where you came from and let the real men deal with the real world.
"Go on a medication for a while and lighten up a bit. My other advice would be to get laid, but with that attitude, my man, all I can see here with aq chance for relief, is a trip to Italy to visit Susan...
LOL! Michel, Michel...I can sense it now. Any day now, you'll be back on your meds and posting an apology for "stooping to our level" and regretting your absurd insults. You are a truly entertaining clown. What would be do without you here? Even the grimmest situations require at least some level of comedy relief!
"Hoping that you'll find the help you need and maybe then have a life again, I bid you bye bye.
Don't worry. You'll be back after the thrill of your drama queen exit cools down. In the meantime, we can all respond to you via your alter-ego, Plato. We know you're the same person.
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