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Reader comment on item: Speaker Shouted Down at U.C.-Irvine
in response to reader comment: "les chiens aboient, la caravane passe"

Submitted by steven L (United States), Feb 7, 2007 at 22:42

Civil societies and civility do not exist yet in the Arab Muslim world. Therefore we cannot expect them (who recently immigrated) to behave according to the norms existing in this country. They come to this country to get an education about what democracy is all about and the universities fail in their obligations to teach that in the western world (democracies) there are rules that need to be respected if you want to be respected.

However many of them have a fundamentalist education (Islam) which by definition does not recognize anything but the Koran. The universities failure to fulfill their obligation under the false pretext of freedom of speech will backfire soon or later.


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gratitude [123 words]jennifer solisAug 26, 2007 03:34
Anti-Semitism in America and Our Universities [1540 words]gary fouseJul 28, 2007 02:52
Disruptions on College Campuses [187 words]Bob JackFeb 13, 2007 17:23
It's Their Right [253 words]Debby MayerFeb 13, 2007 16:02
Possible responses [76 words]abraham irwinFeb 13, 2007 13:57
FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION [39 words]HATITTIFeb 12, 2007 18:08
Freedom of Speech is not Freedom to Prevent Speech [335 words]G WoodworthFeb 13, 2007 02:39
In support of your position [97 words]Bob JackFeb 14, 2007 08:56
Whose "freedom of speech"? [478 words]G.WoodworthFeb 12, 2007 09:34
Righteous indignation... [275 words]donvanFeb 13, 2007 15:39
I'm depressed [109 words]concernedFeb 10, 2007 13:00
Don't let the knockers convince you [150 words]RPaineFeb 13, 2007 12:14
re: RPaine [263 words]concernedFeb 14, 2007 11:00
dumb stupid/stupid dumb [150 words]dfwhite19438Feb 9, 2007 18:15
Saudi money plays an ugly role in Western countires [187 words]joesephFeb 15, 2007 17:31
UC-Irvine [39 words]GumboFeb 9, 2007 11:40
speaker shouted down at uci [129 words]rafi maromFeb 9, 2007 09:43
Protestors cannot be faulted for their legitimate right to protest
[w/response] [397 words]
Ghulam Muhammed, MumbaiFeb 9, 2007 06:21
To: Ghulam Muhammad, Mumbai [273 words]B KettelleMar 12, 2007 09:08
The University Failed; Hannity & Colmes Obfuscate the Issue [139 words]Nathan RosenblattFeb 8, 2007 18:11
Disruption [171 words]Ernie LofthouseFeb 8, 2007 12:10
Anti Opression ? [115 words]abdul khanFeb 8, 2007 11:49
Dr. Pipes where where the moderates that you claim exist. Where they there? If not, why not? [65 words]gellin&infidellinFeb 8, 2007 11:09
"VOICE IN THE WILDERNESS" [154 words]Edgar Malcolm ErvinFeb 8, 2007 10:48
eye opening [66 words]DarrenFeb 8, 2007 08:30
slippery slope [46 words]robert aFeb 8, 2007 04:46
Disturbance at the Irvine Campus meeting [227 words]FaqiFeb 8, 2007 03:35
Objective vs. Subjective [82 words]David W. LincolnFeb 8, 2007 00:08
follow up on the event [289 words]HarrakFeb 7, 2007 23:39
False liberalism, Muslim incivility, and immoral faculty [366 words]Caesar M. ArevaloFeb 7, 2007 22:59
Clarity [173 words]Bill StoreyFeb 7, 2007 22:58
Surprise [119 words]Michael from CanadaFeb 9, 2007 11:53
Re:Bravo! Mr.Daniel Pipes, Don't mind these idiots and bullying babaric Islamists. [168 words]TTSFeb 7, 2007 22:48
Irvine [78 words]steven LFeb 7, 2007 22:24
No trust in Muslems [53 words]f.shaFeb 7, 2007 21:07
The Moslems want the people in the West to give the Jizya to them [47 words]f.shaFeb 19, 2007 21:58
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Great Interview w/Hannity & Colmes!
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Reut CohenFeb 7, 2007 17:04
wash my hands [61 words]andre cassanoFeb 7, 2007 19:55
Speaker shouted down at UC Irvine [49 words]faqiFeb 8, 2007 03:48
"les chiens aboient, la caravane passe" [106 words]HarrakFeb 7, 2007 16:58
⇒ Pipes at Irvine [114 words]steven LFeb 7, 2007 22:42
Depression pills [180 words]HarrakFeb 10, 2007 20:58
Absurdities [95 words]Harry RogersFeb 7, 2007 16:26
Saudi Influrence In Our Colleges. [186 words]clarence puckettFeb 7, 2007 23:28
Bullying Tactics [52 words]Philip W. ChapmanFeb 7, 2007 16:05

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