To dhimmi no more: Basics it is
Submitted by Plato (India), Feb 6, 2007 at 07:16
"I understand what you are saying. However, we infidels cannot fix islam. Only Muslims can fix Islam. But you know what? islam cannot be fixed as long as Muslims see all of the Qur'an as the real word and wish of Allah uncreated and unchanged, good for all times and all places."
"And is there such a thing as a moderate Muslims? No there is no such a thing."
I will have to agree to disagree with you. The moderates still live a troglodyte existence. They are very thin on the ground but believe me I have seen them.
"And you know what? One of the major fault lines of Islam is that we do not have a central authority that we can talk to."
I would think that is a major advantage which can be exploited. Imagine 1.2 billion people with a central authority and the Koran for its constitution. I shudder thinking about it. All those tafsirs, sects, hadiths are the wedges that can be used by us infidels to crack open the shell in which Muslims live.
"I happen to believe that the worst enemy of Islam is islam! Islam claims to be a religion and a political system not unlike communism another religion that was also defeated. Political Islam does not deliver and this will be the reason that will bring islam down."
That is the truth. Turn on the TV, open the daily newspaper. Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sudan, Somalia leap at you. The run-of-the-mill-muslims who have no clue to what the Koran encourages is asking, is this what my co-religionists are doing and for what. That question is reverberating in their minds almost daily. They can see political Islam powered by religious Islam is a failure.
"...Notice that this is the time that Muslims want to emulate!..."
Yes that is what they want to emulate because their imams tell them that was the pinnacle of civilisation. Us infidels must show them the evidence of the bloodletting, the unprovoked attacks on any people considered not 'sharia compliant'. All demanded by Allah in verse after verse of the 'glorious Koran'.
"The way I see it, the only way to solve the Muslim problem is to let them kill each other and limit immigration of Muslims to the west, bug Mosques and deport any Imam who preaches hate or violence."
I agree with all of those actions, except we must show them the wisdom of not killing each other. That is in our interest. Watching people kill each other makes us also immune to violence. And violence in today's world cannot be geographically contained. Middle East violence spills over into the US, Europe. Violence in Kashmir spills over into Pakistan and India. Geographical limitation is no longer a viable option.
I agree only Muslims can fix Islam. Where infidels can help is in showing up the Koran for what it is. A hodge-podge of mostly incomprehensible verses which make some sense only when the context is known. That task has been made easier with the advent of the Internet.
We can also easily show that the unchanging word kept changing in the Koran itself and that the insistence on context by their scholars is an unassailable argument for it not being good for all times and places.
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