If the shoe fits...
Submitted by Noah Wilk (United States), Jan 28, 2007 at 22:30
"Why did you have to lower yourself down to the niveau of Susan?"
You mean calling you out for being foolish and unrealistic? I've been doing that since day one, Michel.
"In your philosophy you may see me now as a weakling, because I am not willing to respond to your very nasty insults in kind."
No, I see you as weak because you're not willing to acknowledge reality, because you persist in believing fantasies and chasing clouds. When presented with incontrovertible evidence, you reply with "if it's true". You're simply not connected with reality.
"I honored your work with much more truh about myself and background than it is smart to do in a wide open forum.Instead of as a minimum appreciating and respecting that truthfulness as foundation for my stands to various issues, you resort to offending me on a personal level?"
Your claims are absurd and unbelievable. So far, you've presented yourself as a Jew whose family endured the Holocaust, a world-travelling businessman giving Fortune 500 companies seminars in conflict resolution (all the while staying in poverty-stricken huts and villages instead of 5 star hotels), and finally as a nuclear/biological/chemical technician. Your claims reek of dishonesty.
"A couple of qualifications and expressions I used ( fanaticism, Hitler, racism) were understood as insult. Have I not immediately apologized for such?"
Only when confronted about it. The very fact that you uttered those words tells us how you really feel. The apology does nothing to change the mentality that enabled you to utter them in the first place.
"One single apology? Not in a million years."
That's because you have presented yourself as some globe-hopping Indiana Jones/James Bond/Donald Trump hybrid. That's because you have made absurd and irresponsible statements that fly in the face of both reality and historical fact.
"The ugly muslim you depict again and again and again is the face of a person looking back at you when you shave, dear friend. The sad fact of life confirmed once more, that one hates in others exactly the qualities one manifests himself."
Wrong. I don't buy into your psychological mumbo-jumbo. I am supremely tolerant. I have Christian, Catholic, Buddhist, Taoist, Iroquois, and Lutheran friends. I don't simply "tolerate" other religions...I appreciate and accept them totally. I do not appreciate or accept death cults that endorse terror though. I do not believe in suppressing women, in rape, in beheadings of non-believers. I share none of the qualities that cause me to hate Islam.
"How can you live (with yourselves), dominated by bitterness, pessimism, anger, hatred and acryd cynisism? Either a serious serotonin imbalance or some deeply buried frustrations which you need to get out of your systems, before they consume you."
Oh, wow! So now...in addition to being a globe-hopping conflict resolution specialist for Fortune 500 companies and an expert in the field of NBC warfare...you are also a licensed psychologist? Who'd have guessed! No, Michel, it is not a seratonin imbalance or a deeply buried frustration. It is not a domination of bitterness, pessimism and hate. It is called acknowledging the grim reality of the modern world and working hard to change it in an effective and sane manner.
"Not trying to sound patronizing, but I feel deeply sorry. Sorry for you, sorry for us as a society, sorry for thye many innocent Muslims, sorry for the children you will raise as indoctinated as they do in a refugee camp in Gaza radicalized by a fanatic Imam."
I thought you were apologizing for calling us radicals, extremists, and fanatics? Was that apology a lie, Michel? Or are you now rescinding it? You should feel sorry for yourself, not for us. You are the one living in denial, and you are the one who cannot cope with reality. The rest of us (me, Susan, Dhimmi No More, Patriot, etc) are just fine!
"So much work I personally put in too, with only this one result? What a pity. What a shame."
Unfortunately, denial of reality does take a lot of energy since you have to psychologically shield yourself from true input constantly. Enbrace the truth Michel. The truth will set you free.
"If you are a man of class, honorable and strong, if you are the man you proclaim to be, then you have the spine to apologize for letting this debate degrade to an exchange of personal insults. This time, Noah, it is you who has the burden of proof that he deserves the respect I treated you with."
I have nothing to apologize for. I call it like I see it and I do not sugar coat it. If reality and truth offends you, that is your problem, not mine. If your post come off as absurd, unbelievable, unreasoning and irresponsible, that's your fault, not mine.
"I will check in from time to time, as I am curious as to what Mo has to say in response to Platos excellently crafted questions. But other than that"
I posted a reply to Mo, outing him as a Muslim terrorist propagandist, but apparently it did not post. I'll try resubmitting it. In case it does not post, I will email you a copy. It speaks volumes for your integrity and vision that you shower Mo with so much praise when he's clearly and publicly proven himself to be an Islamic propagandist.
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