Perfect example for Michel - Shakeel
Submitted by Noah Wilk (United States), Jan 28, 2007 at 21:46
Here you go Michel. Another Muslim (Shakeel) chimes in, and what does he say?
"They are terrorists in your eyes because they fight against US and its allies interests."
Really? So killing all the Christians in Sudan and raping the women (even young girls) is a fight against the US and its allies and interests? interesting. I didn't realize we had interests in Sudan. Care to explain what those interests are? I have news for you Shakeel. Raping children is not considered civilized, but rather the actions of barbaric, uncivilized monsters. It is not a military tactic. Neither is genocide. That is what civilized people consider 'terror", and why your people are considered terrorists - because raping, pillaging, and genocide is ingrained in them.
"Because 90% , muslims are victims of your invasion, occupation and transgressions."
Really? So the Muslims in Sudan are being "occupied" by and "transgressed against" by Christians in Sudan? They're being "occupied" by and "transgressed against" by Buddhists in Thailand?
How about Sweden, a neutral country? Are Muslims being "occupied" by and "transgressed against" by the Swedes? Because your people did blow a Swedish airliner out of the air a couple of decades ago, killing everyone on board. Was leon Klinghoffer, a retired old wheelchair-bound Jewish man from New York, who was on a cruise with his wife, "occupying" by and "transgressed against" Muslims on that cruise? Is that why the cowardly PLO shot him an unarmed, crippled man in a wheelchair? How noble you Muslims are.
And you need to realize that sane people around the world do not consider Muslims in Israel "transgressed against" because they have more freedoms are rights in Israel than they do in any Muslim country and they enjoy a far higher standard of living in Israel than in any Muslim country. That's not called "transgression".
As far as occupation, the Muslims lost that territory due to their own hatred. They lost it during a war in which several cowardly Muslim nations banded together in an attempt at a second Holocast (you Muslims sure have an obsession with genocide!) against the Jews, and were exposed as cowardly, incompetent losers. Allah does not train his soldiers well, obviously. And so they lost territory to Israel, and now like whining littel brats, they cry about having lost it and want it back. Muslims are the most immature people on the planet.
So according to Shakeel, Muslims are being transgressed against and occupied by the Buddhists, the Christians, the Hindus, the Native Americans, the Taoists, the Chinese, the French, the Spanish, the British, the Americans, the Russians, the Balinese, tourists, newspapers, radio and tv stations...is there anyone on this planet that is not occupying and transgressing against Muslims, Shakeel?
"To my best knowledge, saudi arabia is the only country where idol worshipping is banned. Christians are also included in it because they worship Jesus."
You didn't answer my question, Shakeel. What, that wasn't covered in the latest propaganda session at the mosque last week? Whydo Muslims believe they should be able to practice their religion freely in other countries while they themselves do not allow others to practice their religions in Muslim countries? That's called hypocrisy and double-standard.
"Unlike other religion followers who practices their religion merely or not at all, most muslims still give islam and its personalities value or sanctity"
Another weak response... Are you, Shakeel, trying to justify the murder (by Muslims) of an innocent nun who had nothing whatsoever to do with the publication of those cartoons? Are you telling us that arson, rape, murder, and rioting are acceptable and civilized reactions to the publication of cartoons?
"Mostly for having good income, others for luxurious life, some others for having academic degrees etc.."
Really? But you Muslims always claim that Islamic culture is far superior to Western culture. Why can't Muslims enjoy a good income in Islamic countries, if Islam is so wonderful? Why can't Muslims enjoy luxurious lives in Islamic countries, if Islam is so wonderful? Why can't Muslims get academic degrees in Islamic countries, if Islam is so wonderful? Why do they have to come suckle from the teat of the Great Satan in order to have all those advantages? And isn't that selling out to one's religion? Isn't that the same as "whoring oneself to the devil"?
"Intolerence, poverty and ignorance exists because their countries have been exploited partly by foreigners, rest by corrupted governments. "
Really? Is Iran being exploited by foreigners? America has not been involved with (and have not even had relations with) Iran for what...a quarter century now? Why is unemployment so high in Iran? Why are people so miserble there? The PLO and Hamas have taken control of the so-called Palestinian people. America has no role there. Why are the so-called Palestinians doing so poorly? Oh, I forgot. That's the Jews' fault.
Shakeel, can you name one single Islamic state anywhere on the planet where the people live in freedom, peace, happiness and prosperity?
"Because of lack of education and good income. Again Islam is not responsible for it, it is because of the system which they have borrowed partly from foreigners and tried to shape it according to their culture. I would say, pseudo-West and pseudo-Islam system is the responsible for all these disastrous things."
Ah, I see. So all these repressive Islamic states...Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Syria...where there is no religious freedom or tolerance, where there are no equal rights for women, where rape is rampant and pedophilia is acceptable, where genocide is considered a good deed...these states got that way by adopting Western culture? Strange, I don't recall America ever endorsing genocide, rape, pedophilia, religious intolerance, sexism, etc. Those are crimes in America and other Western countries. But somehow it's our fault that your people engage in such barbarism, right?
There you have it Michel! A typical response from a typical Muslim. Not enough free thought and intelligence to fill a thimble to the half-way mark, no sense of reality whatsoever, an infantile refusal to accept responsibility for their own actions, blaming others for their own shortcomings, making excuses and dodging the question when the madrassah has not supplied a reply for them to parrot.
These are real Muslims. This is the true face of Islam. This is what we're dealing with. Get used to it Michel.
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