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For Zaki and Allah and polemics part deux!
Reader comment on item: Paul Goodman, MP, Analyses Radical Islam
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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Nov 28, 2006 at 18:18

My dear Zaki you wrote;

> I never said that people who prays to idols or were polythiestic were bad people

You are a good Muslim? Right? But it seems that your Allah says that polytheists are bad people! So are you disagreeing with your Allah my dear Zaki? What do you think my dear Zaki?

Your Allah says and I quote here Q9:4 and the infamous: "iqtoloo al-muskrikeen" ! Shame. And in Q9:29 your Allah declares war on ahl al-kitab (what ever that is) for no reason at all. He is asking you to go out and even fight your co-citizens and I include here Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, atheists etc or the rest of humanity. Is this the right thing to do my dear Zaki? Then in Q9:30 your Allah accuses the Jews of being poyltheistic (sic) and then he accuses the Christians of also being polytheistic. Oh I forgot and also in Q112! If this is not hate and polemics, I have no idea what it is.

So if you are indeed a good muslim you must follow your Allah's commands including Q9:5, 9:29, 9:30! But you sound like a decent man my dear Zaki because you do not seem to be following his commands!

So much for the religion of peace!

>I just believe that islam is the perfect religion for me

Then why are you here? and why are you debating with me Islam if it is indeed a perfect religion for you? What are you trying to prove?

>have you read what the Bible says about non Christians and homosexuals?

Yes I did and it is very sad indeed.

And inspite of the fact that islam is against men having sex with other men (I do not like to use the term homosexual because it has no meaning) Islam has been very tolerant of men having sex with other men thorugh its history and I think that this is great. The anti-gay nonsense in the Arab world now is a recent phenomenon thanks to Muslim fundies.

But why do you bring the Bible here?

Snip apologetics

>you keep telling me that my God and my religion are false

Yes they are.

>Religion is not an exact science its a belief

Very true. It is also the opium of the masses!

>Otherwise we all adopt the same religion based on scientific proof

Religion is bad for all of us including you. Why do you need a God or Gods my dear Zaki? The most sophisticated theology which is for sure buddhism which as you might know is non-theistic. And as the Buddha have said something to the effect that: "I have no idea if ther is a God or Gods, and if there is one or more I have not met him/them. But you must be good and do good deeds baecuase that is what it is all about." That is indeed what it is all about, and it is not about an Arabian god and his rasul!

Just be a good person my dear Zaki and yes you do not need your Allah... !

The difficulty with Islam is that it is not unlike communism they are both religions and they are both fascist one has been defeated and the other will be defeated in the market place of ideas...

Snip some bogus falsafa.


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For Vijay; good points! [468 words]dhimmi no moreNov 24, 2006 17:39
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For Dali or is it Zaki and Arabs are racists and anti-blacks and the absurd! [414 words]dhimmi no moreNov 26, 2006 21:16
dhimmi no more [238 words]ZakyNov 27, 2006 03:48
Continuation to my previous post [61 words]zakyNov 27, 2006 04:00
For Zaki and Allah and polemics! [130 words]dhimmi no moreNov 28, 2006 07:06
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to dhimmi [126 words]dhimmiNov 28, 2006 15:58
dhimmi no [264 words]zakyNov 28, 2006 16:27
⇒ For Zaki and Allah and polemics part deux! [561 words]dhimmi no moreNov 28, 2006 18:18
For zaky and your credebility is on the line! [281 words]dhimmi no moreNov 29, 2006 07:47
For Zaky And I got news for you too! [326 words]dhimmi no moreNov 29, 2006 18:33
To dhimmi [167 words]zakyNov 29, 2006 22:21
To Dhimmi nomore [182 words]VijayNov 30, 2006 14:29
For Vijay Islam polemics and violence! [188 words]dhimmi no moreDec 2, 2006 08:19
For zaky and your credibility is on the line part deux! [226 words]dihmmi no moreDec 2, 2006 09:15
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Reply [40 words]NadSep 13, 2007 16:51
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