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SoI & TBoB: Some facts

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Submitted by Georges Fernandez (India), Sep 5, 2006 at 08:02

http://www.thebiographychannel.co.uk/biography_home/324:0/Diana_Spencer.htm Diana, Story Of A Princess.

"Following her divorce, Diana became no less popular in the press. In fact, it could be said that media scrutiny intensified, with the world eager to know her next step. She was first linked to married art dealer Oliver Hoare, to whom she reportedly made anonymous telephone calls. She then had a brief

Like I said elsewhere, a little bit of education never harmed anyone!

But a little bit of web research reveals that the Brits have been at it right in their backyard too, I mean the divide-and-rule, in their encounters with the Irish, with some bad karma visiting the last British Viceroy of India, Lord Mountbatten! http://1169andcounting.blogspot.com/2005_01_30_1169andcounting_archive.html

So you hardly need Indian help to resolve the Kashmiri-Pakistani problem in your own homeland now! Just as interesting that it took six decades for a British PM to finally understand that the root issue in the Kashmir problem is Islam! "We were not bending our eye or our will to it as we should have... We rather inclined to the view that where there was terrorism, perhaps it was partly the fault of the governments of the countries concerned," he said. [Blair links Kashmir crisis to Islamic extremism, http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1844527.cms]

See SoI&TBoB, I would have wanted the poor Lady Di to sleep undisturbed, but you want facts, right? So here goes: http://www.thebiographychannel.co.uk/biography_home/324:0/Diana_Spencer.htm

Diana, Story Of A Princess

"Following her divorce, Diana became no less popular in the press. In fact, it could be said that media scrutiny intensified, with the world eager to know her next step. She was first linked to married art dealer Oliver Hoare, to whom she reportedly made anonymous telephone calls. She then had a brief involvement with England rugby player, Will Carling. They met at an exclusive London gym and shared intimate coffee mornings but denied any physical aspect to their relationship. Following that, she publicly dated heart surgeon Dr Hasnat Khan for whom she had great respect and, according to friends, with whom she felt a ‘karmic' bond and truly loved. Unfortunately, due to cultural differences, their relationship could not have a future. Dr Khan, being from Pakistan and believing in arranged marriages, would not get his parents' approval to marry a divorced, Western, non-Islamic woman. Diana tried everything she could to persuade him that they should marry, including asking friend Imran Kahn, who himself had married a British aristocrat outside the Islamic faith, to speak to him. She approached his parents, writing letters and even travelling to visit them, but to no avail.


"A few days after her break-up with Dr Khan, Diana was photographed kissing Dodi Al-Fayed, son of Egyptian-born businessman Mohamed Al-Fayed, owner (amongst other things) of Harrods department store in Knightsbridge, London. They enjoyed a brief time together and in 1997, Diana flew with her sons to Saint Tropez to holiday with Dodi…."

http://www.india-today.com/itoday/15091997/diana2.html

DIANA, PRINCESS OF WALES
All Her Knights

"Following her divorce, various names were linked to Diana, but the most recurrent was that of the London-based Pakistani doctor Hasnat Khan. Diana even visited Khan's parents in Pakistan during one of her visits, prompting speculation of a possible marriage.

"Diana was subjected to some uncharitable asides for her apparent partiality towards non-English males and this increased in intensity following her involvement with Dodi Fayed, who was taunted as the son of the Queen's grocer. there was a definite undercurrent of racism in the disapproval of Dodi. Even after the Paris tragedy, pundits have berated the Harrods owner for having ideas above his station, with one going to the extent of describing Diana's association with "scumbag" Dodi the greatest misjudgement of her life. If they had indeed got married, Diana would have become a hate object of the very people who now deify her."

As for Gandhi, the Mahatma, there was only one. He is revered as the Father of the Nation. Here's what he had to say of the British: "Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest." --Mahatma Gandhi.

In contrast, here's the British record for you. A timely jog for a conveniently stunted memory. http://www.onwar.com/aced/data/india/india1919.htm

Jallianwala Bagh Massacre in India 1919

'Soon after Dyer's arrival, on the afternoon of April 13, 1919, some 10,000 or more unarmed men, women, and children gathered in Amritsar's Jallianwala Bagh (bagh, "garden"; but before 1919 it had become a public square) to attend a protest meeting, despite a ban on public assemblies. It was a Sunday, and many neighbouring village peasants also came to Amritsar to celebrate the Hindu Baisakhi Spring Festival. Dyer positioned his men at the sole, narrow passageway of the Bagh, which was otherwise entirely enclosed by the backs of abutted brick buildings. Giving no word of warning, he ordered 50 soldiers to fire into the gathering, and for 10 to 15 minutes 1,650 rounds of ammunition were unloaded into the screaming, terrified crowd, some of whom were trampled by those desperately trying to escape. According to official estimates, nearly 400 civilians were killed, and another 1,200 were left wounded with no medical attention. Dyer, who argued his action was necessary to produce a "moral and widespread effect," admitted that the firing would have continued had more ammunition been available.

'The governor of the Punjab province supported the massacre at Amritsar and, on April 15, placed the entire province under martial law. Viceroy Chelmsford, however, characterized the action as "an error of judgment," and when Secretary of State Montagu learned of the slaughter, he appointed a commission of inquiry, headed by Lord Hunter. Although Dyer was subsequently relieved of his command, he returned a hero to many in Britain, especially conservatives, who presented him with a jeweled sword inscribed "Saviour of the Punjab."

'The Jallianwala Bagh massacre turned millions of moderate Indians from patient and loyal supporters of the British raj into nationalists who would never again place trust in British "fair play." It thus marks the turning point for a majority of the Congress' supporters from moderate cooperation with the raj and its promised reforms to revolutionary noncooperation. Liberal Anglophile leaders, such as Jinnah, were soon to be displaced by the followers of Gandhi, who would launch, a year after that dreadful massacre, his first nationwide satyagraha ("devotion to truth") campaign as India's revolutionary response.'

Lastly, you are so completely off-the-mark on the caste system, SoI&TBoB, with your considerably limited palette of colours, it is simply not possible for your racist mind to understand the subtleties of caste, given the penchant of the White Missionary-Colonial Master to corrupt all that he touched with subversion and denigration! The caste system was an open system based on pure merit, and much more creative and functional than the abominable black & white stinking class system or the continuing Monarchy of the British.

That is how, in fact, the Indians had Brahmins who took to modern education like ducks to water, defeating the British at their own little games in the process. British learning was too easy for the Indians, compared to the complex theoretical systems of the Vedas! That is also how the Indian trading class beat the British merchants at their own game the world over, disenfranchised and even handicapped as they were under the rule of the White Masters of Brittania! That is also how the Hindu Kshatriyas, the warriors, ensured the defeat of Islamic jihad in their midst unaided by outsiders, a lesson that the British had better learn fast now!!!

This much should suffice for now, SoI&TBoB, since I think you will need to go back to the nursery and mull over the lessons spelt out here! Being short of memory, we may forgive you for the crocodile tears over the Babies of Beslan, considering all that you achieved in distant parts of the world while the Sun was shining over your little island!

Your confusion is to be overlooked anyway, given the considerable cerebral challenge this little bit of history poses for you. Or I'd have mentioned the Crown Jewels and the Peacock throne stolen by the 'Master' in all chicanery, now claimed by India, Pakistan, and Iran too!!!


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