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Submitted by Saul Green (United Kingdom), Sep 2, 2006 at 11:52

Dear Daniel

Here in the UK we had a situation where the Association of University Teachers, one of the then two main university teachers unions, tried to get an academic boycott of Israel and Israeli academics. It was actually passed at a conference but later repealed. Whilst I believe that Israel, like all democracies has its warts, and probably more so than many others mainly because of its embattled situation, I just found it astounding that when there so many other places that were not just worse than Israel but in completely different leagues, not one was felt to deserve the same.

Unfortunately this traison des clercs is all too common in UK Higher Education. The social sciences and arts are swamped by post modernism and provers of six impossible things before breakfast, while the scientists can't work out how to argue with people who regard logic as a whilte male conspiracy. Nothing new here. In the last century intellectuals such as Bernard Shaw, regarded as a wit but the rhyme's a better description, was full of praise for Hitler and then Stalin.

Fortunately not everyone feels the same. The left-liberal consensus is breaking I think. The hard left have joined with the Islamacists. The soggy left is in some ferment. Trevor Philips, the black head of the race relations body has publicly, and courageously in my opnion, questioned the suitability of multiculturalism which leads to inward looking 'communities'. For his pains he has been attacked by the mayor of London, Ken Livingstone who suggested that he join the BNP, the main fascist party of the right. (Incidentally the BNP is in line with its fascist colleagues on the left and in Islamacist organistions. They oppose the intervention in Iraq for example but were not allowed to join the Anti War Coaltion, headed by the Trotskyist Socialist Workers Party and variaous Islamacist groups. Clearly they were the wrong sort of fascist).

Unlike some of your other correspondents, I'm not taking an anti-Muslim line. If Muslims accept the rules of the sovereign state then that's fine by me. I know a lot of Muslims that are happy to do so (and a few that perhaps don't). But we have a lot of work to do in restoring ideas of genuine ideas of liberty and democracy. The corrosive effects of the bien pensants in the schools, universities, arts and press, have done a lot to take away the power of critical rational argument and put us into an Alice in Wonderland situation.

What worries me about some of the comment I see here is that it is as negative as that of the Islamacists. They (the Islamacists) have identified a devil - the decadence of the West. Those that identify all Muslims as the devil are doing us no favours. Rather we need to regain and restore faith in that which has made the West the most humane political and social system in history, despite all its drawbacks. Truth is not revealed nor is it relative. It is approached by often painful and hard work which is what an open society provides a background for. Obviously we need more than just that to face down the jihadists and others. But if we let the Chomskys and Sontags, and their acolytes get away with poisoning the well of truth then it won't matter how many divisions the West has, it won't know what to do with them.

No easy answers

Best wishes

Saul


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One, many Douglas Giles [240 words]Edward G. NilgesJul 31, 2008 07:59
we must keep our freedom of speach or radical islam will win [100 words]Phil GreendJun 2, 2007 12:55
Watch This! [952 words]UrantianNov 22, 2006 03:05
CAIR's Twisted Stand on Academic Freedom [85 words]S.C.PandaOct 3, 2006 05:27
Islamic Platonism [102 words]John HarknessSep 15, 2006 09:45
CAIR [164 words]Thomas Earl CannadySep 13, 2006 21:48
Muslims in the West [228 words]Bryan JacksonSep 12, 2006 13:13
Anti-Cair [25 words]YovenSep 10, 2006 14:26
Muslim Intolerance [406 words]InfidelSep 7, 2006 01:14
Infidel [50 words]ahmad zafireSep 8, 2006 02:04
Ahmad Zafire: Dreaming up an Islam that did not and doesn't exist. [246 words]Abdul RahmanSep 11, 2006 16:37
Ahmad, I've Read the Qur'an [149 words]InfidelSep 21, 2006 20:05
Stop the BS [96 words]Alyn PinkofskySep 6, 2006 15:31
Academic Freedom [26 words]Steve LiefSep 5, 2006 16:04
Good point, Steve, but don't expect CAIR to agree [56 words]JaladhiSep 5, 2006 17:22
Write the university
[w/response] [32 words]
Douglas BoggsSep 4, 2006 22:23
No e-mail (or at least very difficult to obtain for dePaul U).. [125 words]J.S.Sep 8, 2006 16:52
CARE? [116 words]John RSep 4, 2006 17:25
DePaul, an example of Catholic lethargy [66 words]Howard VeitSep 3, 2006 10:56
FOLLOW THE MONEY.... [105 words]DONVANSep 8, 2006 16:41
Civil Liberties Only Apply to Muslims [23 words]John RSep 3, 2006 07:56
Neo-Marxists pervert the notion of Liberty [261 words]Reuben HorneSep 3, 2006 04:10
CAIR is playing the cards we've dealt it [206 words]PatSep 2, 2006 22:02
⇒ Good old academic freedom [580 words]Saul GreenSep 2, 2006 11:52
CAIR ditto Civil rights for Muslims and Death for others [16 words]LDCSep 2, 2006 10:22
CAIR is barking up the wrong tree. [137 words]Sunil BSep 2, 2006 04:25
curb civil rigths that are harming this country [129 words]JOHN MANITTASep 1, 2006 20:49
When will we stand up to this [81 words]James NormanSep 1, 2006 20:45
That's CAIR's logic [241 words]SwaminathanSep 1, 2006 20:34
Tails I win, heads you lose [59 words]David W. LincolnSep 1, 2006 18:51
CAIR: Civil rights for Muslims and Death for others. And the more pro-Jewish, the more dead. [233 words]rickSep 1, 2006 17:31
catholic dhimmitude? [43 words]Yuval Brandstetter MDSep 2, 2006 14:25
CAIR's Twisted Stand on Academic Freedom [127 words]Steven LSep 1, 2006 17:19
Cair uses demagogery to promote creeping islamisation of the United States [78 words]LKSep 1, 2006 13:14
Cair,Naacp,Uncf,etc. [81 words]ahmad zafireSep 1, 2006 21:04
CAIR = to KKK? If you say so. [110 words]James NormanSep 3, 2006 08:29
Only if we let it [88 words]PatSep 3, 2006 10:54
james norman [89 words]ahmadzafireSep 3, 2006 22:16
the CAIR splinter cell [228 words]James NormanSep 5, 2006 13:19
james norman [261 words]ahmad zafireSep 6, 2006 03:20
the CAIR splinter cell [172 words]James NormanSep 6, 2006 20:11
James Norman [453 words]ahmad zafireSep 8, 2006 01:58
James Norman [60 words]ahmadzafireSep 8, 2006 02:12
Ahmadzafire [229 words]James NormanSep 8, 2006 20:17
ahmadzafire [54 words]James NormanSep 8, 2006 20:19
Ahmad Zafire, Atrocities Against Muslims [112 words]InfidelSep 8, 2006 22:41
James Norman's Twisted Understanding of God and Allah [360 words]InfidelSep 9, 2006 20:01
in the end i think madison will have the last word [89 words]can no one see what is happeningSep 9, 2006 21:35
James Norman true you are sir!! [363 words]ahmad zafireSep 10, 2006 07:21
Ahmad Zafire - so that you can stab us in the back, 9/11 [55 words]Abdul RahmanSep 11, 2006 10:45
Abdul Rahman [287 words]ahmad zafireSep 12, 2006 08:55
Infidel [17 words]SohailSep 21, 2006 08:08
Israel [29 words]Shahid KinnareFeb 2, 2007 18:44

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