Submitted by rick (United States), Aug 31, 2006 at 16:30
If the parents were very religious and said the basis of their forgiveness was a Christian belief I would not only agree with you but I wouldn't have written what I did.
It is because the apparent basis for their forgiveness was political not religious that I was unnerved by it.
They are forgiving the killer because he made a mistake and not because it was wrong.
They are committed by what they believe is the "palestinian struggle" that the "mistake" that resulted in their son's death is therefore pardonable.
In other words, if a person who was Jewish was killed by this knifer 20 feet in front of their son, they would justify that murder. As some poster here said this was "a friendly fire" mistake. That is anti-Semitism.
I'm sure the parents think of themselves as left wing humanists who want to help the poor and unfortunate of this world. And part of this so called left wing humanism is an anti-Semitic element. That , I find very objectionable.
Much of the fault belongs with the media. Because it is the media that has hammered away at Israel for decades rationalizing everything from the Munich massacres to cold bloodied killings of Israeli civilians and front paging operations of the IDF as military bullying while ignoring the heinous crimes of Arab terrorists, giving unbelievable amounts of slack to arch terrorists like Arafat and demonizing people like Sharon.
In a way they are just like the parents. Looking at a conflict through palestinian provided rose colored glasses and viewing Jews as mean and cruel soldier types, stomping kindly and gentle Arabs.
Think of the Arafat-Pope visits at a time the Vatican wouldn't even recognize the nation of Israel. Why shouldn't the Pope honor Arafat and why shouldn't it refuse to recognize the Zionist Entity? What is obscene becomes not only ordinary but politically correct. That is the kind of acceptance without thinking that I am sure Angelo Frammartinos parents went through. It is an upside down world and the media has a central role in that distortion.
Still, the parents, if they even did try to learn the "other side" to this disagreement, did such a poor job that they did not see the forest for the trees. Would they have understood a Jew killing their son thinking he was an Arab? I think their public comments on that would be very harsh towards the murderer – as they should. But left wing humanists hold to a double standard. What is totally wrong for a Jew is understood when done by an Arab.
If they saw both sides as justifiable- a true war zone – would they allow their son to go there? No, a European wouldn't send their son to help the any "poor" people during the war. It is obviously too dangerous.
In a very cruel and misguided way, they thought: "As our son is pro-Palestinian, those kind and gentle people would never harm him and as Israel does not engage in terrorism, our son has really nothing to fear from the enemy. So he is safe." never realizing that as a Caucasian his own DNA placed him closer to an Israeli than to the Arabs and actually put him in mortal danger. Because Arabs target all Jews and Angelo was at that horrible moment a Jew. It is amazing but he died as a Jew!
They never realized that this is a war and not a demonstration for rights like the ones that take place regularly on European thoroughfares with placards and happy faces and songs. Angelo was perceived as one of the enemy! That is another cruel twist perhaps the parents haven't even thought of.
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