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Reader comment on item: What Security Measures vis-à-vis Western Muslims?
in response to reader comment: Really?

Submitted by R V (United States), Aug 14, 2006 at 19:39

More dangerous than a man who knows nothing is a man who knows very little. Those usually think they know enough to make an educated statement. That, dear Uni Student, is directed at you. I am going to take your comment appart piece by piece. If you have the guts follow along; alternatively you can bury your head in the sand with the rest of France:

1. "Need I remind people that Islam comes from the same stem as Judaism"
Islam is about 2000 years younger than Judaism. Whatever form of Judaism was practiced in the fortress-cities in the Arabian Peninsula when Muhammad arrived was not mainstream Judaism by any stretch of imagination.

2. "...and at its root is a peaceful religion." Several points here. For the root of Islam read the Koran. Yusuf Ali is as good a translation as any. Then go ahead and tell me how peaceful their "root" is. Additionally, religion is defined by the men who practice it and therefore, "its root" has no bearing on the current conflict whatsoever, except for the fact that by reading about "the root" you may understand what in it drives these new Nazis.

3. "...but antagonising the faction who are that radical is only going to prolong the struggle."
Israel tried appeasing them by giving half the country away "unilaterally" and leaving Lebanon "unilaterally" as well. Worked out really well didn't it? Stopped many homicide bombings, right?

4. "Arabic countries were once among the most advanced civilisations in the world, making Islamic beliefs blend with modern thought."
Very true, but you seem to have missed an important keyword in your own sentence - "ONCE". That culture is no more. The scholars were all persecuted away by fanatics. Islam now covers a whole new breed of people.

5. "Maybe all they need is a little understanding and patience to get back to that point."
Patience? In this particular situation patience entails letting our children be killed by Muslim Fascist. Do you have children? Please, don't stigmatize all of us who do. Do you think Hitler also needed a little patience and understanding? Should we have let him kill more until he had enough and realized his mistake? I am sorry, I am not willing to sacrifice my family for the noble goal of maybe getting the Arabic culture to its former height. The price is to high and there is no reason for it. Nobody is preventing them from being law abiding productive members of society. This is a choice they made themselves.

6. "Stigmatising the whole community could only be detrimental to any long term peaceful solution."
Obviously, avoiding stigmas clearly has assured long peaceful years, right?

Regards.

R. V.


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I agree but...
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tomWrightAug 27, 2006 16:00
the radical Muslims are in the majority.
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Lou GoldbergAug 23, 2006 13:44
common sense and superb scholarship by Dr. Pipes --- Where is the audience? [128 words]Larry DeutschAug 22, 2006 14:35
Bull's Eye [53 words]R VAug 22, 2006 21:24
Not far enough... [123 words]Warren BonesteelAug 20, 2006 14:08
"Moderate" Muslims
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Tzvi TamariAug 17, 2006 21:16
Daniel Pipe's response to T. Tamari's blog: re: "moderate Muslims" [127 words]Tzvi TamariAug 24, 2006 12:18
A dream [108 words]PeterAug 26, 2006 03:10
Moderate Muslim [21 words]InfidelSep 4, 2006 13:58
Moderate Muslims, Ha! [218 words]Rennee DeCintiMay 8, 2007 16:36
lol [193 words]NOUR ALIJan 13, 2008 03:28
Quranic Hate [37 words]survivorJan 21, 2009 19:26
This is only the beginning... [270 words]SteveAug 17, 2006 16:19
Dr.Pipes calling for caution regarding I.D. cards for Muslims unprecedented?
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Ben van de PolderAug 16, 2006 11:36
A Cautionary Note
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Charlotte WestAug 16, 2006 06:24
Muslims are Those Which Follow Islam [105 words]AbbieAug 16, 2006 16:53
Muslims in USA should need to carry ID card with religion!!! [211 words]AbbieAug 16, 2006 03:57
muslims with religion ID [79 words]Chuck LeblancOct 8, 2006 09:36
Terrorism is WRONG!!! [250 words]AbbieOct 9, 2006 04:07
War is an eternal issue (unfortunately)... [160 words]MikeFeb 24, 2009 00:46
Kids Should be Protected..not used as little bombs by their parents [214 words]AbbieFeb 25, 2009 01:52
At last, the PC British are slowly turning around [251 words]VijayAug 15, 2006 07:35
Really? [156 words]Uni studentAug 14, 2006 07:09
⇒ Islamic Culture [447 words]R VAug 14, 2006 19:39
Gross ignorance of Islam or deliberate self-deception? [261 words]VijayAug 15, 2006 17:26
Fair points [223 words]Uni StudentAug 16, 2006 02:41
Reputedly liberal country [141 words]R VAug 17, 2006 01:07
to Uni student [104 words]Anubhav SinghAug 18, 2006 02:23
What do you have to back it up? [230 words]R VAug 20, 2006 09:25
University Education Promotes Ignorance [266 words]InfidelAug 21, 2006 02:17
Are we sure it's really a religion? [61 words]YankensreinAug 13, 2006 21:27
Long time ago.... [154 words]pepeAug 13, 2006 15:57
Non Moslem Americans are getting scared [33 words]Kenneth S. BesigAug 13, 2006 15:09
Really? [63 words]R VAug 13, 2006 19:13
Supine and PC British [56 words]VijayAug 13, 2006 04:40
How?
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R VAug 13, 2006 01:13
Will it work? [106 words]R VAug 13, 2006 15:24
Justice [204 words]Mike JohnsonAug 13, 2006 23:10
Necessary evil [92 words]K LAug 13, 2006 23:28
Reply to Daniel Pipes [110 words]RandyAug 14, 2006 13:21
RE: What Security Measures vis-à-vis American Muslims? [79 words]RandyAug 14, 2006 13:24
Simpler solution to the problem [205 words]RogerAug 14, 2006 22:25
Quite easy [57 words]PeterSep 1, 2006 08:06
I agree, but ... [112 words]R VSep 1, 2006 18:07

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