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Submitted by Vijay (United Kingdom), Jul 12, 2006 at 18:26

>Submitted by Alb, Jul 12, 2006 at 04:16

>I agree that all denominations should be treated the same. But each denomination has it's own special >needs, constrains, and demands. I think if the demands and constrains do not obstruct the law, why not >allow it! In some cases, you will need more population present to justify certain demands, and that is ok >too.

If all denominations should be treated the same, would you give this sound advice to countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, etc so that Christians, Jews, Hindus, Bahais are given as much right as Muslims? if not, why give this advice only to non-Muslim countries?

>As for Jews and Hindus, the vast majority hates Muslims so much, it is a very bad idea for them to set as juries unless the trust factor is built again.

You cannot blindly impose your prejudices on host countries under such spurious assumptions. Since you admit Muslims don't trust Jews, Hindus or Christians, why don't Muslims stay in Muslim countries and not be a burden on non-Muslim countries.

>Additionally, female Muslims do not like to play and laugh around males in the pool, why not allow some >pools to open on some days for female only and others for male only!

You can do this if you build a pool with your own money. If you are going to enjoy the public money mostly paid for by non-Muslims, less demands you make the more decent it will be. The more silly 'islamic' demands you make on others, less tolerance you will have from others.

>I miss the school days when males acted as males without worrying about females around.

It looks like you never grew out of your school days. If you are going to "worry about females", go back to saudi Arabia or Iran where females are treated as second class human beings.

>Do not take me wrong, I like females, but sometimes I like to be in male only activities, and that is ok too! >As far as the Muslim demands goes, all I can say is the American law is already built to support a lot of >Christianity and Judaism needs and constrains already. Just because Muslims demand some rights, we >should not be all threatened.

Muslims have no more rights in the US than what the US constitution allows to every individual. If you cannot accept that, why stay in the US?

>Muslims do not even get much to compare. Let's face it, with Muslim countries so poor due to interference >in political systems and instability, many Muslims will migrate to the West, and the West need to come to >term and either respect Muslims in the Muslim land and help them succeed, or Respect them in the West >and help them succeed there.

You are correct in pointing out that Muslims migrate to the west; the reason is that Islam has decimated the idea of cicil society based on rational laws. Why should the West help the Muslim societies succeed? Is it their business? If Muslims fail due to islam, it is not West's responsibility. Let the Muslim societies fail completely so that Islam is given up. Having been driven out of Muslim countries due to failing Islam, why should the rest of the world respect you and help you succeed in the west? No one is obligated to Muslims in any way. If you fail due to your religion, it is your problem, not anybody else.


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Appeasement is not the way to deal with Islamists' demands [293 words]B N GURURAJFeb 15, 2009 06:34
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