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Jerusalem or Jerushalom!! the war between the gods

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Submitted by Harrak (Canada), Jun 24, 2006 at 02:02

"Modern archaeology traces the earliest written record of the city to Egyptian records of the Bronze Age . It is thought that the city existed at least as long ago as 3000 BCE . During the Canaanite period, it had the name UruĀšalim, meaning "the city of peace". source wikipedia.

I say: Where was the Jewishness of Jerusalem at that time! If the name is not Jewish to start with! or else, it should have been called Jerushalom.

now: "Archaeological findings indicate the existence of a settlement in Jerusalem in the 3rd millennium BCE. The first mention of the city in historic sources begins in the 2nd millennium BCE. First built and founded by Canaanite peoples " same source

I say: how can one claim something that he did not build! and did not name!

If one allows himself to say god gave it to me, than why blaming the other for doing the same! I think Jerusalem has nothing to do with Jewishness, Christianhood, or Islamdom. It is a human heritage. All are entittled to the right of access, but not EXCLUSIVE right. I buy the idea of a secular (France like) state in that area rather than the Jewish Israel or Muslim Palestine...this is what people do not understand. Leave god at home and in the prayer place. In the street or in the state people are all equal citizens.

I may upset the right wingers again with this comment, but they need to evolve. Creative design needs evolution itself and the right wingers need to change their ringers to better up to date sound effects or they can put them selves on vibrate if not the silent mode..it helps cooling the Religio-magnetic stress that dates back to late 1800s..someting like the soccer fever that makes people mad..and in stead of problems like home grown marijuana, some nation states these days suffer from home grown terror...in other words, kids that think god gave them something which is not Jerusalem..it is called heaven..

I still don`t know which god will win..it looks like the god that pays more..especially in the social circumstances that some nation states have...where a dog in some areas costs more that human..where a human see an old lady and asks her..hey mom! why don`t you breed me! and she replies! Are you gonne pay my bills after I die! They can not go after Fofy..

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The Jewish heart and mind is eternally connected to Jerusalem and Israel for thousands of years [430 words]YJ DraimanMay 15, 2015 14:59223374
1Jerusalem! [29 words]IreneJan 20, 2009 10:08148510
F I N A L W O R D ! ! [204 words]Salah al-Din Yusuf ibn AyyubJul 18, 2008 02:33135353
Islam should be protected [19 words]AhmedApr 14, 2007 23:4689289
Us Versus Them [532 words]darkflighter100Mar 24, 2007 22:5287892
2Jerusalem [27 words]AlexanderOct 11, 2006 16:3459888
1God gave Jerusalem to the jews [92 words]Stephen PhillipsOct 12, 2006 19:0959888
Alexander [15 words]Ibrahim AliOct 13, 2006 06:3259888
Stephen Phillips [11 words]Ibrahim AliOct 14, 2006 16:3759888
Ibrahim Ali [19 words]AlexanderOct 15, 2006 07:4759888
Muslims simply covet Jerusalem. They have no attachment to it [38 words]Stephen PhillipsOct 15, 2006 19:4759888
JEWISH TEMPLE IN JERUSALEM MENTIONED IN qURAN [137 words]xanga.com/ShlomoZalmanOct 7, 2009 11:1659888
JEWISH TEMPLE IN JERUSALEM MENTIONED IN qURAN [17 words]xanga.com/ShlomoZalmanOct 7, 2009 11:1959888
JEWISH scriptures, mitzvot & israel validated in koran [64 words]xanga.com/ShlomoZalmanOct 7, 2009 11:2759888
jerusalem if i forget you my right hand forget me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [125 words]ashumarApr 22, 2010 09:5859888
about your comment [57 words]Michael ROct 13, 2010 10:4959888
Islam-an evolving religion [115 words]DallasJul 5, 2006 10:4348920
Jerusalem is a Jewish city [112 words]Frederick BainhauerJul 3, 2006 23:0248819
1If Jerusalem belongs to Muslims , then Mecca belongs to Jews [34 words]John ChristianJul 2, 2006 01:1148705
A very narrow minded opinion John [135 words]AudreyJun 7, 2007 22:1548705
Sorry, but you have your history wrong [258 words]KevinAug 19, 2007 11:2348705
Whose land? [169 words]H LaFeverSep 20, 2007 19:0648705
so biased [42 words]ConcernedtothismyfriendMay 24, 2008 20:0548705
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Truth in the Arab World [232 words]Peter IrwinJun 29, 2006 16:0548449
Follow-up to my previous comment [297 words]Peter IrwinJun 30, 2006 06:5048449
Isn't some of this related to their Religion? [219 words]J.S.Jun 27, 2006 16:0048273
Whole Civilised World stands with Israel : Go ahead and rescue our Brother [310 words]Rahul KhannaJun 26, 2006 23:2448212
Jewish vs. Arab/Muslim claims to Jerusalem [57 words]MosheJun 24, 2006 18:2848120
JEWS VS ARABS [17 words]KevinMar 21, 2007 18:4248120
We should see the reality in our face [120 words]GuestJul 8, 2008 12:4248120
ALLLAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [11 words]jalaalJan 7, 2009 10:0048120
Jerusalem or Jerushalom!! the war between the gods [406 words]HarrakJun 24, 2006 02:0248105
Harrak, you have to try a little harder! [544 words]MosheJun 25, 2006 05:5548105
History through the Bible. [191 words]YovenJun 26, 2006 10:5548105
Trying Harder..uh! [291 words]HarrakJun 26, 2006 11:0548105
Harrak, Bible's Flat Earth Theroy [167 words]InfidelJun 27, 2006 01:0748105
Harrak, we are back to square 1. [127 words]MosheJun 27, 2006 04:2748105
Jerusalem is for Jews and Christains [166 words]AlexJun 27, 2006 12:5648105
alex [105 words]ahmad zahireJun 27, 2006 23:1648105
Ah, Mad Harraknophobia! [333 words]Sword of Islam & The Babies of BeslanJun 28, 2006 21:1548105
Sword of Islam & The Babies of Beslan [184 words]ahmad zafireJun 30, 2006 06:3548105
Amen, Moshe! [352 words]EBJun 30, 2006 09:3548105
Don't stop Israel! [39 words]PDMJul 3, 2006 18:3348105
Patriotim 1 Attn: Swords and Moshe [262 words]HARRAKJul 4, 2006 00:1848105
Harrak, your ignorant comments are indeed below the mark. [39 words]MosheJul 5, 2006 10:5248105
Moshe :) [18 words]true believerJul 6, 2006 11:2948105
take it easy Mishmish, we are just learning from each other [12 words]HarrakJul 6, 2006 15:5448105
to infidel: Bible, Quran and the flat earth [67 words]tariqAug 1, 2006 14:4348105
Humbled Infidel Requests Explanation From Honourable Tariq [191 words]InfidelAug 1, 2006 20:0848105
Humbled Infidel Gets an Explanation From Honourable Tariq! [1375 words]tariqAug 3, 2006 04:0648105
Honourable Tariq's Explanation Leaves Infidel With Headache [537 words]InfidelAug 4, 2006 01:1048105
Honourable Tariq's Explanation Too Complicated for Infidel to Understand [1704 words]tariqAug 5, 2006 03:3948105
Holy Qur'an, Book of Scientific Information [215 words]InfidelAug 6, 2006 11:3648105
Sarcastic Infidel has no answers [1272 words]tariqAug 7, 2006 05:0648105
Please Explain [386 words]InfidelAug 7, 2006 23:4848105
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to Farouk [90 words]tariqFeb 14, 2007 08:0948105
No one is to blame... [275 words]TheBladeofFateJun 16, 2009 02:4548105
The problem with our line of defense.... [201 words]Arvind MadhavanJun 24, 2006 01:3748102
Judeo-Christian Islam (makes Jewish history in Jerusalem part of Islam) [248 words]HarrakJun 23, 2006 15:5748094
Judeo Christian culture [380 words]true believerJun 28, 2006 08:4348094
now we are getting somewhere (true believer) [302 words]ahmad zafireJun 28, 2006 23:2048094
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Good job, Harrak! [44 words]MosheJun 30, 2006 04:2448094
Ahmad Zafire, for the sake of accuracy..... [201 words]MosheJun 30, 2006 05:2048094
re Judeo Christian Hypo [644 words]true believerJun 30, 2006 09:5048094
Not yer Ahmed :) [187 words]true believerJun 30, 2006 11:0048094
true believer [216 words]ahmad zafireJun 30, 2006 23:1448094
facts for you, Ahmed [999 words]true believerJul 3, 2006 11:3748094
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More To Be Said [182 words]Yisrael MedadJun 20, 2006 15:0947948
WHAT YOU LEFT OUT ! [56 words]HARRY STILLMANJun 21, 2006 00:3747948
Two can play at that game [71 words]David W. LincolnJun 20, 2006 14:4247945
It was to be expected [95 words]Yale ZussmanJun 20, 2006 14:3047944
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Yes, Harrak... [24 words]Arvind MadhavanJun 22, 2006 00:0747943
ysd, we agree [33 words]HarrakJun 22, 2006 21:1847943
So glad, Harrak... [28 words]Arvind MadhavanJun 24, 2006 01:2147943
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Dan, you are absolutely correct.... [16 words]MosheJun 25, 2006 08:4347935

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