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Submitted by Saladin (United Arab Emirates), May 25, 2006 at 16:00

Similar stories about other sons of God who takes away the sins of the world were in circulation aroung the meditranean before Jesus (PBUH), why believe this to be true for Jesus only. Read below what another poster has written:

Submitted by kr, May 23, 2006 at 07:23

In the Bible Jesus tells us to worship God: "Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God and Him only shalt thou serve." (Matt. 4:10) "The first of all the commandments is 'Hear O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord; and that thou shalt love the Lord thy God will all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength."(Mark 12:29,30)

Jesus tells us he is not the same as God:
"Why callest thou me good? There is none good but One, that is God" (Mark 10:18; Luke 18:18)


This verse shows that Jesus didnt see himself as God. (he says to Mary Magdalene: '....but go to my brethren and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God and your God.' (John 20:17)?"

(note in the above verse that Jesus says "my Father and your Father", which shows that Jesus doesnt call himself the son of God. The word father is used as cherisher and lord, not as father.)

the Trinity didn't come about until 325 years after the death of Christ. that's 325 years after the death of Jesus and the resurrection to some people! It was a political move by emperor Constantine at the first council of Nicea (325 AD) to unite the Romans and the Christians together to give him a power base. He basically decreed that Jesus was God and the Roman Sun God, because Greek and Roman mythology had taken over Christianity; Christianity did not take over Greek and Roman mythology. The Roman Sun God's birthday, which was the 25th December became Jesus' birthday. The Roman's Sunday became the holy Sabbath. Also the counsel decreed that Jesus was the Son of God, the only begotten of the Father, the very God of the very God. It also declared the Trinitarian concept, the official doctrine of the Pauline Church, which is now, basically, the Roman Catholic Church. Therefore, you must understand that whether it be the Roman Catholic Church, or the Protestant church, all the scriptures came from the one source - that which became the Catholic Church. So all the canonical Gospels were in the hands of the Catholics originally. Through them came the Gospels of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John, the only four Gospels. After that they went about destroying all the Hebrew Scriptures, over three hundred of them written in the original Hebrew text and many of them were eyewitnesses' accounts. So from there in 380 emperor Constantinople of Rome made the Trinitarian base of belief, the Catholic faith obligatory to all his subjects, and it's been that way since. That's why Rome is the head of the faith. In 381 the counsel of Constantinople attended by 186 Bishops they completed the three present head of the Trinity, and they added to the Godhead the person of the Holy Spirit. In 381 Emperor Theodosius threatened to punish all that did not believe in the doctrine of the Trinity. That's why we have the basic Trinitarian doctrine of all Christian faiths today, except for a few who believe that Jesus was not God, Jesus was a Prophet of God, a messenger of God, similar to Islam.

Now the implications of the Trinitarian doctrine are truly obvious, they have nothing to do with the original teachings of Jesus


Taken from http://members.iinet.net.au/~asmaazam/21st Century Revert Stories/Revert Stories.htm

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