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Whom are you trying to fool ?

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Submitted by true believer (India), May 17, 2006 at 11:50

Whom are you trying to fool ? Your Hadiths are as violent as the ayas that I have quoted from the Koran, if not more. Have you yourself read them ?

just one for your reference Sahih Bukhari

Narrated 'Ikrima: Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to 'Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn 'Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Apostle forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his faith (Islam), then kill him.'"

I could go on and on..but you can do your homework instead.

You quoted "Those verses which you mentioned came in different time and occasions during the war with different tribes and groups when they refused to accept good deeds (rapes, killings baby girls, praying to many Gods, drinking whole day and fighting with each others, treating slaves like animals, racism, facism, and several other bad things were existed in Arab socities)."

What about Mohammed and his band killing of people and raping their wives at Banu Quraiza ? They were not polyethists, child killers, rapists or drunkards . In fact the men chose to die rather than convert from Judaism to Islam. If you want I can give you the relevant Hadiths. Much filthier things exist in the Arab societies today, but either Islam sanctions it and their hypocrisy does not allow to bring the rest of it out. Dont try to bury facts under tons of useless verbiage.

Your question "As far as Kashmir is concerned. If you have common sense and brain.....tell me who is the winner? "

Your question itself is deviod of common sense. Pakistan is the obvious winner. My nation is bleeding because of the terrorist attacks and the resources spent to fight insurgency, while Pakistan just has to push a half a dozen jihadis across the border with a dozen small arms and ammo, while its nuclear deterent makes sure that India won't attack it in retaliation even if her parliament itself is attacked ( simmilar to what Israelis did to Lebanon in 1982 )

You said "Bosnia, Chechniya, East Timar, Sudan etc. are part of conspiracies by different countries for their business interests not for relegious. I don't want to explain each incident but if you have enough brain (you know but try to avoid and make propaganda against Muslims)!"

What Serbs did in Bosnia till they were stopped by the US and NATO was the simmilar to what the Turks and Pan Turkic people did in eastern europe . I assume you know that moslems were killed in Bosnia. Chechens sided with Nazis against Soveits during the WW II and after the break up of Soviet Union started terror attacks like the Beslan one for "independence". East Timor Christians were simply killed by moslem militias and the Indonesian army because of their faith while in Sudan Arab moslems (government backed janjaweed militia ) are simply raping, looting and killing blacks irrespective of them being moslems christians or animists. Well Sudan has an Islamic government which imposes sharia in Sudan. Where is the "business interest" that you are talking about ? What are you trying to say ? Don't "doubt" my brains, better try to upgrade yours.

You said "I know your objective by showing PARTIAL versus from Koran to present that Muslims are terrorist because they read such verses from Koran. Have you read Torah, Geeta, Ramayan, Mahabharat and other religious books"

What are "PARTIAL" verses ? There is no ambiguity in the verses that I have quoted. Their meaning is plain obvious and maybe that is what makes you squirm. Simply reading these verses from the Koran does not make one a terrorist, I did not become a terrorist after reading Koran. It is when moslems believe in these verses as a revelation from Allah and decide to become terrorists. I have read the Torah thoroughly because it is a part of my faith and it does have passages where Israelis are called to kill their enemies lock stock and barrel, e.g. when Jews took over the city of Jericho. I have also read the Hindu scriptures which were simply beautiful, but have never come across anything simmilar to what I have quoted from the Koran. Why blame me? Moslem extremists from Bin Laden to Abu Moussavi to Ahmedinejad quote the same verses to justify their acts.

Either you are an apologist or you are plain ignorant. I leave it up to you to decide.

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