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Submitted by Irem (Germany), Feb 9, 2006 at 11:26

Paul said
"They have committed two known genocides. The Armenians around 1915 of which there were millions. In the 1950s they did the same to the remaining Greeks,.

There are virtually no NON MUSLIMS left ie less tha 1% of Turkey. What happened to the 100% Christians that once inhabited that land. "

What happened in 1955 was not a genocide. For people who dont know the events; the stores of nonmuslims(mostly greek) in some districts of Istanbul are plundered at one night possibly triggered by high tension in Cyprus and a provocative rumour about a bombing attack to Atatürk's home in Thessaloniki.

Quoted from www.wikipedia.org

" During the 1940s and 1950s, Cypriots began to demand union with Greece. The Greek community held referenda in support of annexation, while the British sought to quell any movement which could threaten their possession of the island. In 1955 the struggle erupted into guerrilla activity with the foundation of EOKA, and in the closing years of the 1950s the political and intercommunal atmosphere on the island became increasingly fraught.
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EOKA (Ethniki Organosis Kyprion Agoniston, in English National Organisation of Cypriot Fighters) was a Greek Cypriot nationalist organisation.....
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The objective of EOKA [1] was to drive the British out of the island first and then integrate the island to Greece by destroying the Turkish community with a massive annihilation. EOKA initiated its activities by planting the first bombs on 1 April 1951 with the directive by Greek Foreign Minister Stefanopulos. " //under the titles Cyprus and EOKA

the regretable event in 1955(it is known as 6-7 September events in Turkey) led most of the greeks leave the country and immigrate to Greece and USA. Personally, I feel really sorry about what happened in 1955. In last years many of documentaries, books, exhibitions, newpaper articles showed up in turkish public media condemning and regarding the events shameful.

Another response to Paul

So well, what happened to the millions of muslims in Balkans and Caucasia in 19th century. Are they massacred, is it a GENOCIDE?
No, some of them died during years long wars(Balkan I, II, WW I, Ottoman-Russian ), some left after wars when Ottomans lost the territores, and the remaining like my grandparents(from Thessaloniki, Skopje, Chios(a greek island)) moved to new Republic of Turkey due to the exchange of populations(based on religion not ethnicity including gypsies) following the Greco-Turkish war of 1920-22 with some exception(West Trace Turks, Istanbul Greeks). As a consequence, the muslim population in contemporary turkish territories doubled maybe tripled up, while it shrinked in Balkans. The same happened to Greek population in Anatolia.

The changes in demographic statistics are not always a sign of a genocide. We must first learn the history and then talk about it.

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Turkey and Shariat [454 words]David Mac ArtainMay 27, 2006 23:32
Response to Balikesirli and Zubair & Gotlieb [127 words]Bige VonaFeb 13, 2006 19:43
Wow [179 words]BalikesirliFeb 10, 2006 21:39
to the 'WOW' comment [46 words]MuglaliNov 21, 2007 05:22
Ignorance or American Plans? [388 words]Deniz Bülent TolgaDec 24, 2005 09:10
what is perception is not always the truth [416 words]Bige vonaFeb 12, 2006 20:58
No one can defeat Islam [81 words]Zubair KhanNov 30, 2005 07:07
Response to Zubair Khan [262 words]Gadget GottlierJan 16, 2006 13:35
You have to think deeply about what you are talking about :) [315 words]Mary smithOct 17, 2006 16:13
Violence Assisted Religion [419 words]Alan GreerDec 22, 2006 18:20
America is number 1 and will defeat islam [11 words]Born In The USAOct 6, 2009 14:46
Bad news for my people [116 words]Johnny CarpatiNov 13, 2005 16:15
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"Going" Fundemantalist [60 words]Alan GreerDec 22, 2006 18:27
The land of love and tolerance [148 words]Fahri ŞahinOct 30, 2005 07:47
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What if the conventional wisdom of our leaders is wrong on Turkey? [96 words]alanOct 18, 2005 08:38
Response to Alan [436 words]SULTANOct 19, 2005 10:54
EU is not deserving the TURKISH presence [112 words]HUSEYIN YILMAZOct 6, 2005 15:17
No! [521 words]SULTANSep 22, 2005 15:30
So Sadly True [71 words]Hannah WhalenSep 15, 2005 21:21
YES, IT IS ON the WAY to SHERI'A.. [74 words]Mr.Dincer KisogluSep 4, 2005 08:04
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HOW DARE THEY! [153 words]h.koisserSep 26, 2006 10:37
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It depends on what do you mean by islamist [48 words]GuclucerJul 6, 2005 05:38
Let's have some empathy and less prejudice [263 words]AyeshaJul 2, 2005 14:35
Raise your hand if you think Turkey is going Islamist [22 words]Angelo GuidaJun 15, 2005 21:02
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Let them have a Khilafah [67 words]Stuart MiddletonJun 13, 2005 17:43
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What does the military have to say? [31 words]Eric VanhoveJun 12, 2005 08:49
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Bravo Dr. Pipes [55 words]BrunoJun 10, 2005 14:41
Erdoğhas been there, done that
[w/response] [91 words]
Howard VeitJun 10, 2005 10:58
Can't agree more [126 words]PavelJun 10, 2005 10:14
Turkophobia does not exist [305 words]Octavio JohansonJun 10, 2005 05:14
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It is time to get nasty.... [423 words]David Mac ArtainMay 27, 2006 22:28
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PatJun 8, 2005 17:57
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Turkey in the EU [70 words]concerned citizen of EUJun 7, 2005 11:35
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⇒ Muslim - Christian populations [447 words]IremFeb 9, 2006 11:26
A response to dear Paul [195 words]haci sanliOct 29, 2007 17:38
Could not agree with you more [95 words]Harun HassouniJun 7, 2005 10:48
I've been making the same observations about Turkey [113 words]Madhur SharmaJun 7, 2005 09:15
Some of the basics on Turkey... [283 words]Barin KayaogluJan 15, 2006 02:54
Affermative: Turkey is going Islamist [193 words]Octavio JohansonJun 7, 2005 08:16
Reply to commenter Octavio Johanson [81 words]GuclucerJul 6, 2005 05:51
Response to Armanien Genocide remark [72 words]Bige VonaFeb 13, 2006 20:48

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