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in response to reader comment: I've been making the same observations about Turkey

Submitted by Barin Kayaoglu (United States), Jan 15, 2006 at 02:54

I do understand that some of the esteemed commentators in this forum are not well-informed on Turkey (in varying degrees). Let's recall some basics on Turkey:

A. Turkey has a system of checks and balances. Not even Erdogan's presidency can significantly alter the political landscape. There is still a very powerful - and stubbornly secular - judiciary. As an added bonus, the Turkish constitution's articles on the characteristics of the state (defined as secular, populist, democratic, and upholding the rule of law) are not amendable.

B. Some of the comments about Christians and Jews living in fear in Turkey are plain ludicrous. Following the al-Qaeda attacks on two Istanbul synagogues in November 2003, "Islamist" Erdogan visited the Chief Rabbinate to extend the nation's condolences. For the past decade Turkish presidents and prime ministers have routinely sent notes of goodwill to chief rabbis and archbishops on Christian and Jewish holy days.

C. In the Middle East, we have given the benefit of the doubt to Yithzak Rabin and Ariel Sharon. Both of these men demonstrated remarkable changes in their stance vis-a-vis the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. I do believe that Erdogan deserves a similar chance. To be sure, the guy is never going to come forward and say that he is staunchly secular. He does, however, increasingly appreciate his limitations and the strengths of the Turkish regime and is moving on.

(For those of you not fluent in Turkish and/or unable to follow the Turkish press, Erdogan's chief advisor Omer Celik made a very interesting remark last October. According to Celik, secularism has been Turkey's "nuclear power," meaning that the country has been strengthened because it has not been burdened by religious dogma for all this time http://www.sabah.com.tr/2004/06/13/yaz1000-50-111.html )

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Turkey and Shariat [454 words]David Mac ArtainMay 27, 2006 23:32
Response to Balikesirli and Zubair & Gotlieb [127 words]Bige VonaFeb 13, 2006 19:43
Wow [179 words]BalikesirliFeb 10, 2006 21:39
to the 'WOW' comment [46 words]MuglaliNov 21, 2007 05:22
Ignorance or American Plans? [388 words]Deniz Bülent TolgaDec 24, 2005 09:10
what is perception is not always the truth [416 words]Bige vonaFeb 12, 2006 20:58
No one can defeat Islam [81 words]Zubair KhanNov 30, 2005 07:07
Response to Zubair Khan [262 words]Gadget GottlierJan 16, 2006 13:35
You have to think deeply about what you are talking about :) [315 words]Mary smithOct 17, 2006 16:13
Violence Assisted Religion [419 words]Alan GreerDec 22, 2006 18:20
America is number 1 and will defeat islam [11 words]Born In The USAOct 6, 2009 14:46
Bad news for my people [116 words]Johnny CarpatiNov 13, 2005 16:15
How can a Muslim go Islamist? [103 words]Fahri SahinNov 7, 2005 16:03
"Going" Fundemantalist [60 words]Alan GreerDec 22, 2006 18:27
The land of love and tolerance [148 words]Fahri ŞahinOct 30, 2005 07:47
Turkish Headscarves [8 words]SophieOct 25, 2005 13:25
What if the conventional wisdom of our leaders is wrong on Turkey? [96 words]alanOct 18, 2005 08:38
Response to Alan [436 words]SULTANOct 19, 2005 10:54
EU is not deserving the TURKISH presence [112 words]HUSEYIN YILMAZOct 6, 2005 15:17
No! [521 words]SULTANSep 22, 2005 15:30
So Sadly True [71 words]Hannah WhalenSep 15, 2005 21:21
YES, IT IS ON the WAY to SHERI'A.. [74 words]Mr.Dincer KisogluSep 4, 2005 08:04
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HOW DARE THEY! [153 words]h.koisserSep 26, 2006 10:37
WHY SHOULDN'T TURKEY ENTER THE EU [55 words]MihailidisMay 29, 2009 03:12
It depends on what do you mean by islamist [48 words]GuclucerJul 6, 2005 05:38
Let's have some empathy and less prejudice [263 words]AyeshaJul 2, 2005 14:35
Raise your hand if you think Turkey is going Islamist [22 words]Angelo GuidaJun 15, 2005 21:02
Who would be surprised? [34 words]Glenn KlotzJun 14, 2005 16:54
Let them have a Khilafah [67 words]Stuart MiddletonJun 13, 2005 17:43
Turkey [362 words]WernerJun 12, 2005 12:40
Turkey In The EU / Have Babies, Allah Wants Them [53 words]Eric VanhoveJun 12, 2005 08:58
What does the military have to say? [31 words]Eric VanhoveJun 12, 2005 08:49
IS TURKEY GOING ISLAMIST? [9 words]Fred KellerJun 10, 2005 18:30
Bravo Dr. Pipes [55 words]BrunoJun 10, 2005 14:41
Erdoğhas been there, done that
[w/response] [91 words]
Howard VeitJun 10, 2005 10:58
Can't agree more [126 words]PavelJun 10, 2005 10:14
Turkophobia does not exist [305 words]Octavio JohansonJun 10, 2005 05:14
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Turkey and the European Union [153 words]Octavio JohansonJun 10, 2005 02:36
It is time to get nasty.... [423 words]David Mac ArtainMay 27, 2006 22:28
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PatJun 8, 2005 17:57
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Turkey in the EU [70 words]concerned citizen of EUJun 7, 2005 11:35
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Muslim - Christian populations [447 words]IremFeb 9, 2006 11:26
A response to dear Paul [195 words]haci sanliOct 29, 2007 17:38
Could not agree with you more [95 words]Harun HassouniJun 7, 2005 10:48
I've been making the same observations about Turkey [113 words]Madhur SharmaJun 7, 2005 09:15
⇒ Some of the basics on Turkey... [283 words]Barin KayaogluJan 15, 2006 02:54
Affermative: Turkey is going Islamist [193 words]Octavio JohansonJun 7, 2005 08:16
Reply to commenter Octavio Johanson [81 words]GuclucerJul 6, 2005 05:51
Response to Armanien Genocide remark [72 words]Bige VonaFeb 13, 2006 20:48

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