Submitted by faqi hussain (United States), Dec 20, 2005 at 14:01
You said: "they" told me that CONVERTS to Islam are growing very fast." Who are these you refer to as "they" what statistics or surveys are you quoting from ? Anyone one can say " they" said it.
They said the moon was made of cheese - will you believe it?
These are the undisputed facts on the ground:
1. Muslim families in Western countries are having large families due to the availability of free medical care, free schooling, subsidized housing (in Europe) welfare benefits an other hand outs.
e.g. see Paris, France or Bradford, England .
2. Most immigrants to the Christian Western countries are form traditionally Muslim countries. Algeria, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Somalia, Morocco, Mali,Tunisia, Niger,Iraq,Syria,Lebanon, Egypt. Afghanistan, Indonesia and so forth.
3. 98% of the Asylum seekers are from Muslim countries. see Stats in France, Italy, Spain, & the UK.
4. Most of the disgruntled 'African/Caribbean origin' prison populations in the Western countires & other misfits (e.g. Richard Reid, Jose Padilla) are converting to Islam, as its very simple to do so, also Islam says; as one becomes a muslin, all the prior sins are forgiven by Allah.What a simple way to clear ones conscience. Its a simple act of faith for simple minds.
So these are the hard facts which prefer not to admit - to make it look like, that Islam is growing in the West. Its not growing by conversion as you say. What statistics do you have? Is it the propaganda by the likes of MAC, MAB CAIR and so forth?
Your contention that one half of the American Muslims are converts is erroneoust; you could go to any Masjid (Mosque) and not a Muslim church as you put it, and check this for yourself. The people who are light skinned at the mosque are not Anglo Americans, they are Americans of Lebanese, Syrian, Jordanians, Palestinians, Afghans North African descent.So it may look like they are Anglo Americans..
Islam was spread by the sword, check the history books - the conquest of all the lands in Arabia, Turkey , Persia, Southern Europe, the Balkans, North Africa, and the Indian sub-continent. You have a very meager knowledge of history or you do not want to accept the truth or the facts. Islamic history itself glorify the wars they have had for 1400 years.
You ask why Muslims who come to the West do not embrace other religions? What a asinine question. For one thing they all live in majority Muslim enclaves, to give up Islam is punishable by death - Apostate. Muslims are throughly brain washed from birth and frightened to death of the hell fires if one leaves Islam.
Raaynee you will be surprised by the number of Muslims leaving Islam, they keep it quiet and live in the background for fear of being murdered by their fellow religionists. If you want to educate yourself and learn more about people who left Islam, please visit the many sites on the Internet such as:
Apostates of Islam - We left Islam
Faith Freedom International
TheReligionofPeace.com - How 'bout it... you feelin' the peace yet?
The Truth about Islam: A former Muslim Speaks
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| The use of the word "mohammedans"muhamedans" etc [125 words] | Ed Brophy | Dec 16, 2005 16:44 |
| ↔ why the word mohamedan changed to muslims [32 words] | Raayee | Dec 19, 2005 21:22 |
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| ↔ Response to Rayee [75 words] | Mu'een Ud Deen | Dec 16, 2005 05:40 |
| ↔ Reply to Raayee [222 words] | faqi hussain | Dec 16, 2005 11:56 |
| ↔ Reply to faqi hussain [250 words] | Raayee | Dec 19, 2005 21:56 |
| ↔ To Rayee, rumour of whites converting to Islam [257 words] | Ahmed | Dec 20, 2005 01:44 |
| ↔ ⇒ Response to Raayee [512 words] | faqi hussain | Dec 20, 2005 14:01 |
| ↔ To Raayee [313 words] | Amira | Dec 21, 2005 13:56 |
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| ↔ To Amira, apostacy and Islam [350 words] | Ashfaq A. | Dec 22, 2005 11:34 |
| ↔ Muslim is a Muslim [152 words] | sajid | Mar 7, 2006 04:04 |
| ↔ WHAT? [81 words] | Ehsaan Mesghali | Nov 28, 2006 23:17 |
| ↔ wanted to know why people converted to islam [23 words] | hameed | Jan 9, 2007 13:21 |
| ↔ shame on you Ms Amira [55 words] | fahad | Nov 6, 2007 10:23 |
| ↔ sajid what are you on about ? [72 words] | Nina Niazi | Nov 20, 2007 10:24 |
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| Conversion of America, Islamist Master Plan [402 words] | N.K. | Dec 13, 2005 15:26 |
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| Stop Poaching, and leave Christians and Jews alone [225 words] | Frederick J. Bainhauer III | Dec 11, 2005 12:54 |
| ↔ Frederick [62 words] | P.O.D. | Dec 14, 2005 05:32 |
| ↔ Please respect all the religions. [134 words] | asaassd | Dec 23, 2008 20:16 |
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| Enemies of our civilization [80 words] | Behrouz Azarnia | Dec 11, 2005 04:19 |
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| ↔ Questions to Mueen Ud Deen [410 words] | A.A. | Dec 15, 2005 17:07 |
| ↔ Reply to A.A [431 words] | Mu'een Ud Deen | Dec 16, 2005 05:35 |
| ↔ Reply to Mu'een Ud Deen = Helping the Religion [466 words] | Sophie | Dec 16, 2005 08:01 |
| ↔ Response to Mueen, Hadiths and Siras had witnesses [218 words] | A.A | Dec 19, 2005 12:59 |
| ↔ Response to Mueen Ud Deen [332 words] | Ex Muslim | Dec 19, 2005 13:16 |
| ↔ Mueen,Why didnt Allah drop finished scriptures ? [144 words] | Nazir | Dec 19, 2005 16:28 |
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| ↔ JESUS WAS MUSLIM [451 words] | saqib ahmed | Feb 23, 2007 15:58 |
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| how about a lil tax scarecrow?! [170 words] | Donald O | Dec 9, 2005 22:34 |
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| What else to do? [105 words] | Yoven | Dec 9, 2005 15:59 |
| Targetting of U.S. prisons by islamic missions [68 words] | A.A. | Dec 9, 2005 11:58 |
| Converts and their new "thing" [103 words] | Ed Brophy | Dec 8, 2005 14:08 |
| Rachel Corrie? [45 words] | Shepard | Dec 8, 2005 13:45 |
| converting to Islam [290 words] | Andy | Dec 8, 2005 13:14 |
| Infiltrate [23 words] | Irving Wiseman | Dec 7, 2005 18:13 |
| Don't Worry, Be Happy [93 words] | Aaron | Dec 7, 2005 18:10 |
| In addition to the converts... [83 words] | J.S. | Dec 7, 2005 15:20 |
| meanwhile [124 words] | David Borensztajn | Dec 7, 2005 14:14 |
| Abdul Hamid is John Walker Lindh [92 words] | Mike Smith, M.A., of San Francisco | Dec 7, 2005 12:21 |
| Converts to Islam [109 words] | Thomas Earl Cannady | Dec 7, 2005 12:17 |
| ↔ Converts [255 words] | Protegimus | Jul 12, 2007 15:08 |
| Progress or spinning wheels [81 words] | David W. Lincoln | Dec 7, 2005 11:54 |
| Jihadism in western converts [121 words] | Donald W. Bales | Dec 7, 2005 11:46 |
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| ↔ O yea [79 words] | Muhammad | Sep 2, 2006 22:34 |
| ↔ Mohamedan [16 words] | faruqa | Jul 7, 2007 21:07 |
| State of Mindset [346 words] | Yehoshua Zeller | Dec 7, 2005 11:15 |
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| converts to islam [217 words] | janet mills | Dec 7, 2005 10:01 |
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| ↔ is this an argument [71 words] | saqib ahmed | Mar 2, 2007 11:56 |
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| Recruiters [26 words] | Larry Shapiro | Dec 7, 2005 08:53 |